Zebra 3 Report by Joe Anybody
Thursday, 29 October 2009
Protester Arrested on Courthouse Steps in Portland 10.29.09
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: Torture Protester Activist Arrested - Video Coming Soon

Protester Arrested on Courthouse Steps in Portland 10.29.09


One protester was arrested today in Portland Oregon for peacefully handing out fliers on the 9th circuit Courthouse front porch (steps)

After being (rudely) told (by security guards) to leave the steps, the protester replied just as rudely (but louder) "Get out of my face" to the security guard. Well that caused the guard to go into "over ride"

Like 2 men in a bar the guard was not gonna have "anyone tell him" ...and the cuffs came out as a dozen citizens watched from the sidewalk, yelling "Faschism, let him go, Liar, etc"

The protester who it is rumored is a doctor was pulled (on his feet) into the building (Pioneer Courthouse)

The rude fascist arrest was all captured on video and I will be posting it here latter this evening (asap) on www.Joe-Anybody.com
  **** UPDATE ****
Video Release is now here:
The accompanying video (before & after the arrest) is here:

Posted by Joe Anybody at 5:40 PM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 31 October 2009 1:23 PM PDT
Monday, 26 October 2009
Sad to be having to read this travel report about Iraq
Mood:  crushed out
Now Playing: why do I feel sick after reading this?
Topic: WAR

Editorial sketchbook:

Something approaching beauty in Baghdad

By Mike Francis, The Oregonian

October 21, 2009, 5:31PM



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The rotunda of Al Faw Palace in Baghdad where Oregon National Guard troops have been assigned.CAMP VICTORY SOUTH, Iraq -- Saddam Hussein's artistic sensibilities, like those of many self-important dictators, were somewhat blunted. He was given to pseudo-classical motifs, clumsy statuary and, of course, he had a fondness for heroic images of himself.

Yet here at the former Al Faw Palace compound, now the center of a massive military base on the western edge of Baghdad, Saddam's vision found something approaching beauty.

The Al Faw compound is a complex of substantial, buff-colored buildings, built on man-made peninsulas and ringing a series of lakes formed by canals from the Tigris River. There remains much for an architectural critic to disdain, but there is also the foundation for an upscale resort that could impress even jaded world travelers.

There are just a few things to do before Iraq can hang out the welcome sign:

Lose the concertina wire.

And the sandbags.

And the blast walls.

And the Porta-Potties.

And the uniformed Ugandans who stand at the checkpoints with rifles slung over their shoulders.

And the stream of paired Black Hawk helicopters, racing over the near horizon.

And the signs warning of the authorization of deadly force against intruders.

And, if possible, minimize the frequency of unexplained explosions, which tend to bring visitors out to the sidewalk with questions on their lips. ("Controlled det, I think," muttered one last week.)

In fact, Al Faw, for all its hard edges, is a showpiece for the U.S. military. Late-night comic Stephen Colbert performed here. The Army hosts band parties on the patio overlooking the lakes. The military even has set up an honest-to-goodness hotel in the pillared hunting lodge that looks west toward Al Faw.

Today, the hotel is a project of the Oregon Army National Guard, whose soldiers check in guests, show them to their rooms and explain when the dining room opens for breakfast. It turns out the Army needed somebody to operate a hotel at Camp Victory, the better to entertain visitors, distinguished and otherwise. So the job was assigned to the incoming soldiers of Oregon's 41st Brigade.

So bring your duffel bag to the front desk and say hello to the uniformed soldier behind the desk. He (or she) will be happy to guide you to the Chief Joseph Room, across the parking lot full of armored Humvees. He'll be happy to show where the soldiers fish for the carp, eels and other unlovely species that populate the lake. And, good host that he is, he'll advise you against eating anything you pull out of these waters.

Then, when the door closes behind you, you'll lie on your bed and think, "If only Saddam could see me now."

--Mike Francis

Associate Editor Mike Francis is in Iraq reporting on the Oregon National Guard soldiers assigned to tours of duty there. Read more and comment at: blog.oregonlive.com/oregonatwar/

Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:01 AM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 31 October 2009 1:25 PM PDT
Sunday, 25 October 2009
Podcast by Joe Anybody this is #7
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: AUDIO: Dhar Jamil discusses the current and future US military bases in Iraq.
Topic: WAR


click here to download PODCAST # 7  

Hey Z3 Readers here is podcast number 7 ..its not my opinion, it is me reading an email I recieved from the E-listserve by Dahr Jamil, the independent journalist in Iraq.

Dhar Jamil discusses the current and future US military bases in Iraq. He relays information from inside Iraq, on the SOFA program and the buildup of forces despite the news being told in America that we are moving bases out of Iraq. Dhar gives insight on how the Iraq government is not helping in the betterment of their country, nor is the Obama administration, or our US military bases word/play game.

This 6:59 min audio podcast , was recorded on 7.10.09 from a recent email alert I received from Dhar and thus read aloud and saved as an audio file. I posted this on my website on 10.25.09.

~ my podcast page ~



Posted by Joe Anybody at 6:50 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:34 PM PDT
Wednesday, 21 October 2009
Christians and Torture
Mood:  not sure
Now Playing: Torture is Not Only Immoral, It is Criminal

Major Religions Call for

Investigation into



Monday, September 28, 2009


by Charles Busch


Our nation is presently involved in a debate about the sanctioned use of torture by the United States since 9/11. Is it enough to denounce torture and focus on the future, or do we need to investigate the past and seek accountability? This question takes in considerable territory, including the security of the state and the insistence of justice. But for me, ultimately, it is a question of conscience, collective and individual.

On June 11 this year, in solidarity with religious leaders from five major religions standing in front of the White House, it was my privilege to stand with Rev. Bonnie Tarwater, minister of the Congregational United Church of Christ in Lincoln City and Rev. Carl Reynolds, a member of that congregation. The purpose of our witness along Highway 101 in downtown was to add our voices to the call for a Commission of Inquiry into U.S. torture practices.


Torture is Not Only Immoral,

 It is Criminal

As a Christian, I am heartened by this public witness because, during the Nazi reign in Germany, almost all the leaders of Christian churches held their tongues and ignored Nazi crimes in exchange for being left alone to worship and pursue personal piety. Among the few heroic leaders who risked dissention, was Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a pastor and theologian. Marilynne Robinson writes that Bonheoffer “chastised those who accommodated their religion to the prevailing culture so thoroughly as to have made the prevailing culture their religion.”

Bonhoeffer was imprisoned and hanged in 1945 as a traitor.

As a child in Sunday school, I learned that intentional cruelty to another person is immoral, and as a Marine Corps recruit, I learned that torture is a crime under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. These early instructions confirmed what my conscience already knew, that the nightmare stuff of torture is evil.

Humans throughout the world hate and fear torture. This is evidenced by more than a century of Geneva Conventions. Specifically, the Third Geneva Conventions were enacted in 1949 to govern the treatment of prisoners of war. Articles 13 to 16 state that prisoners of war must be treated humanely and their medical needs met. Articles 17 to 20 state what information a prisoner must give and the limits of interrogation: “No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion.” Nearly all 200 countries of the world are signatory nations.

In addition, the 1985 U.N. Convention against Torture was ratified by the United States and 64 other nations. Nationally, our Constitution has guarantees against cruel and unusual punishment, the Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits torture, and the War Crimes Act of 1996 limits interrogation practices. We are a nation of laws.

Evidence that these codes against torture had been violated by U.S. personnel emerged when photographs were published in April 2004 of prisoners being abused in Abu Ghraib Prison in Iraq. Then came allegations of excessive interrogation practices of “enemy combatants” at the American naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In 2005, the secretary-general of Amnesty International called Guantanamo ”the gulag of our times.”

Then, word of secret “black site” prisons emerged. In April 2009, the Washington Post published a leaked confidential inspection report by the International Red Cross (which is charged with monitoring war crimes). This report provided detailed evidence of the torture of prisoners at “black sites” by CIA and other government-paid personnel. The evidence is persuasive and mounting that crimes against humanity have been committed and were sanctioned (i.e., practiced in multiple prisons over a period of years).

The details are horrific. They include: the water-boarding of a single prisoner 183 times, men chained by their wrists from the ceiling for days, toes barely touching the floor, men deprived of sleep for more than a week straight, forced feeding, slamming prisoners into walls up to 30 times in a row, brain washing, and men sitting in cells with music blasting their ears for days on end. Many men were jailed without evidence or any legal charge for years. A child would know these acts are monstrous.

How Will our Nation

Respond to its Own Crimes?

How will we, as a nation, respond to evidence of our own crimes against humanity? In this, I am guided by my Christian understanding that the life of each person is sacred, and that we are all part of one intricate, indivisible whole. I am also guided by two principles.

First: However politically inconvenient, when a crime has been committed, it may not be ignored.

Second: To create a just future, we must first be honest about our past.

To date, only a few low-level soldiers have been held accountable and served jail sentences. But with the recent release of the “Torture Memos,” written in August 2002 and March 2003 by five Justice Department lawyers, it is obvious that torture was policy approved at the highest levels of government. The purpose of these memos, which attempt a legal rationale for torture, was to provide immunity from future prosecution.

As I stood in Lincoln City, the leaders of five major religious faiths also stood, with other clergy and lay leaders, on Pennsylvania Ave in front of the White House to deliver a collective message to our President. Participants included the president of my church denomination, Rev. John Thomas (United Church of Christ), Archbishop Vicken Aykazian (Armenian Church in America), Rabbi Steve Gutow (Executive Director of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs), Ingrid Mattson (President of the Islamic Society of North America), and the Rev. Michael Cinnamon (General Secretary of the National Council of Churches).

They came as a united part of The National Religious Campaign Against Torture (NRCAT). The message they delivered: President Obama, we look to you and the Department of Justice to authorize a Commission of Inquiry into recent U.S. torture practices. This Commission must be independent and nonpartisan. If it is found that crimes have been committed, then the responsible individuals must be indicted and held accountable.

In this call for accountability, there is no place for self-righteousness. Since May 2004, it has been public information that torture was being committed by the United States, and we citizens did not do what was needed to stop it. We are all complicit.

At the heart of torture is an ancient, recurring lie: That the pain inflicted on just one more person will save us. Every Christian knows and ought to abhor this lie; it’s the very lie that led to Jesus’ torture and political execution.

Will we as a nation investigate and be accountable? As we consider our answer, we do well to listen to these words from Stanley Kunitz’s poem, “Bonhoeffer.”

Slime, in the grains of the State,
like smut in the corn,
from the top infected
Hatred made law,
wolves bred out of maggots
rolling in blood,
and the seal of the church ravished
to receive the crooked sign.
All the steeples were burning.
In the chapel of his ear
he had heard the midnight bells
jangling: if you permit
this evil, what is the good
of the good of your life?
And he forsook the last things,
the dear inviolable mysteries—
Plato’s lamp, passed from the hand
of saint to saint—
that he might risk his soul in the streets, where the things given
are only next to last.Φ

Charles Busch, the founder and President of Peace Village, Inc. and a United Church of Christ minister, lives on the Oregon Coast.

Photo courtesy of : Ken McCormack

I have a link on "Torture Proof" on my website located here:


Posted by Joe Anybody at 7:02 AM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:19 PM PDT
Tuesday, 20 October 2009
Mood:  mischievious
Now Playing: Insecure Passwords
Fix Your Terrible, Insecure Passwords in Five Minutes

A foolproof technique to secure your computer, e-mail, and bank account.

By Farhad Manjoo

It's tempting to blame the victim. In May, a twentysomething French hacker broke into several Twitter employees' e-mail accounts and stole a trove of meeting notes, strategy documents, and other confidential scribbles. The hacker eventually gave the stash to TechCrunch, which has since published notes from meetings in which Twitter execs discussed their very lofty goals. (The company wants to be the first Web service to reach 1 billion users.) How'd the hacker get all this stuff? Like a lot of tech startups, Twitter runs without paper—much of the company's discussions take place in e-mail and over shared Google documents. All of these corporate secrets are kept secure with a very thin wall of protection: the employees' passwords, which the intruder managed to guess because some people at Twitter used the same passwords for many different sites. In other words, Twitter had it coming. The trouble is, so do the rest of us.

Your passwords aren't very secure. Even if you think they are, they probably aren't. Do you use the same or similar passwords for several different important sites? If you don't, pat yourself on the back; if you do, you're not alone—one recent survey found that half of people online use the same password for all the sites they visit. Do you change your passwords often? Probably not; more than 90 percent don't. If one of your accounts falls to a hacker, will he find enough to get into your other accounts? For a scare, try this: Search your e-mail for some of your own passwords. You'll probably find a lot of them, either because you've e-mailed them to yourself or because some Web sites send along your password when you register or when you tell them you've forgotten it. If an attacker manages to get into your e-mail, he'll have an easy time accessing your bank account, your social networking sites, and your fantasy baseball roster. That's exactly what happened at Twitter. (Here's my detailed explanation of how Twitter got compromised.)

Everyone knows it's bad to use the same password for different sites. People do it anyway because remembering different passwords is annoying. Remembering different difficult passwords is even more annoying. Eric Thompson, the founder of AccessData, a technology forensics company that makes password-guessing software, says that most passwords follow a pattern. First, people choose a readable word as a base for the password—not necessarily something in Webster's but something that is pronounceable in English. Then, when pressed to add a numeral or symbol to make the password more secure, most people add a 1 or ! to the end of that word. Thompson's software, which uses a "brute force" technique that tries thousands of passwords until it guesses yours correctly, can easily suss out such common passwords. When it incorporates your computer's Web history in its algorithm—all your ramblings on Twitter, Facebook, and elsewhere—Thompson's software can come up with a list of passwords that is highly likely to include yours. (He doesn't use it for nefarious ends; AccessData usually guesses passwords under the direction of a court order, for military purposes, or when companies get locked out of their own systems—"systems administrator gets hit by a bus on the way to work," Thompson says by way of example.)

Security expert Bruce Schneier writes about passwords often, and he distills Thompson's findings into a few rules: Choose a password that doesn't contain a readable word. Mix upper and lower case. Use a number or symbol in the middle of the word, not on the end. Don't just use 1 or !, and don't use symbols as replacements for letters, such as @ for a lowercase A—password-guessing software can see through that trick. And of course, create unique passwords for your different sites.

That all sounds difficult and time-consuming. It doesn't have to be. In Schneier's comment section, I found a foolproof technique to create passwords that are near-impossible to crack yet easy to remember. Even better, it'll take just five minutes of your time. Ready?

Start with an original but memorable phrase. For this exercise, let's use these two sentences: I like to eat bagels at the airport and My first Cadillac was a real lemon so I bought a Toyota. The phrase can have something to do with your life or it can be a random collection of words—just make sure it's something you can remember. That's the key: Because a mnemonic is easy to remember, you don't have to write it down anywhere. (If you can't remember it without writing it down, it's not a good mnemonic.) This reduces the chance that someone will guess it if he gets into your computer or your e-mail. What's more, a relatively simple mnemonic can be turned into a fanatically difficult password.

Which brings us to Step 2: Turn your phrase into an acronym. Be sure to use some numbers and symbols and capital letters, too. I like to eat bagels at the airport becomes Ilteb@ta, and My first Cadillac was a real lemon so I bought a Toyota is M1stCwarlsIbaT.

That's it—you're done. These mnemonic passwords are hard to forget, but they contain no guessable English words. You can even create pass phrases for specific sites that are coded with a hint about their purpose. A sentence like It's 20 degrees in February, so I use Gmail lets you set a new Gmail password every month and still never forget it: i90diSsIuG for September, i30diMsIuG for March, etc. (These aren't realistic temperatures; they're the month-number multiplied by 10.)

How many different such passwords do you need? Four or five at most. You don't have to keep unique passwords for every single site you visit—Thompson says it's perfectly OK to repeat passwords on sites that don't need to be kept very secure. For instance, I can use the same password for my accounts at the New York Times, the New Republic, The New Yorker, and other online magazines, because it won't hurt me too much if someone breaks into those. (My mnemonic is, I like to read snooty publications quite often.) You should probably use different passwords for each your social networking accounts—someone can do real damage by breaking into your Facebook or Twitter, so you want to keep them distinct—but you can still come up with a single systematic mnemonic to protect them: Twitter is my second favorite social networking site, MySpace is my third favorite social networking site, etc. Reserve your strongest, most distinct passwords for the few very important services that, if cracked, could do the most damage—your bank account, your computer, and most of all your e-mail, which often contains the keys to everything else in your life.

To be sure, this is more of a hassle than what you're doing now—but what you're doing now is going to come back to bite you. These days, we're all dishing personal information all the time; you may think that your password is totally unguessable, but your Facebook makes clear that you're a huge U2 fan and you graduated from college in 2000. Achtung2000, eh? Just go ahead and make some new passwords right now. Trust me, you'll feel better.

According to the story he gave TechCrunch, the Twitter hacker began exploiting Gmail's forgotten-password feature to get into one staffer's personal e-mail. The hacker got a bit lucky here: When he hit the forgotten-password button, Gmail gave him a hint about the secondary e-mail address that the employee had entered when he or she had set up the Gmail account: ******@h******.com. The hacker guessed that this was a Hotmail address; when he checked Hotmail for some addresses that might belong to the user, he found they were no longer active. (Hotmail, like a lot of Web e-mail services, deletes accounts that haven't been accessed in a while.) So the hacker set up the Hotmail account that Gmail thought belonged to the Twitter employee. When Gmail sent a password-reset link to the Hotmail address, it went right into the hacker's hands. (Google has recently added a feature in Gmail that occasionally prompts users to update their backup e-mail addresses.)

After rifling through the Twitter employee's Gmail in search of passwords, the hacker noticed that he seemed to use similar passwords for a lot of different sites. From there, Twitter fell like a line of dominoes: The hacker used the passwords he found in the Gmail account to get into the employee's Google Apps account, which led him to company documents that contained personal information about other Twitter employees. That information allowed him to guess those employees' passwords, which gave him even more personal information, which got him even more passwords, and so on. Eventually the hacker had access not only to documents floating around inside Twitter but also to some employees' accounts at Amazon, AT&T, and iTunes. He even got into the GoDaddy account that managed some of Twitter's domain names.

Farhad Manjoo is Slate's technology columnist and the author of True Enough: Learning To Live in a Post-Fact Society. You can e-mail him at farhad.manjoo@slate.com and follow him on Twitter.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2223478/


Posted by Joe Anybody at 7:00 AM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:20 PM PDT
Sunday, 18 October 2009
Man In Black - Johnny Cash
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: Johnny tells you why

Posted by Joe Anybody at 6:06 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 18 October 2009 6:10 PM PDT
Thursday, 15 October 2009
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: Creates Bullseye In The Sky (experiment)


Creates Bullseye In The Sky


Published on 10-15-2009



Source: Britain News

An experiment that fires powerful radio waves into the sky has created a patch of 'artificial ionosphere', mimicking the uppermost portion of Earth's atmosphere.

According to a report in Nature News, the experiment is called the 'High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program' (HAARP), near Gakona, Alaska.

It has spent nearly two decades using radio waves to probe Earth's magnetic field and ionosphere.

One of the most obvious results of the experiments is that they can create lights in the sky that are similar to auroras, the glowing curtains of light that naturally appear in the polar skies when electrons and other charged particles pour down from Earth's protective magnetosphere into the upper atmosphere.

There, at an altitude of about 250 kilometres, the charged particles collide with molecules of oxygen and nitrogen and make them emit light, similar to the process inside a fluorescent light bulb.

HAARP's high-frequency radio waves can accelerate electrons in the atmosphere, increasing the energy of their collisions and creating a glow.

The technique has previously triggered speckles of light while running at a power of almost 1 megawatt1.

But since the facility ramped up to 3.6 megawatts - roughly three times more than a typical broadcast radio transmitter - it has created full-scale artificial auroras that are visible to the naked eye.

But in February last year, HAARP managed to induce a strange bullseye pattern in the night sky.

Instead of the expected fuzzy, doughnut-shaped blob, surprising irregular luminescent bands radiated out from the centre of the bullseye, according to Todd Pedersen, a research physicist at the US Air Force Research Laboratory in Massachusetts, who leads the team that ran the experiment at HAARP.

The team modelled how the energy sent skywards from the HAARP antenna array would trigger these odd shapes.

They determined that the areas of the bullseye with strange light patterns were in regions of denser, partially ionized gas in the atmosphere, as measured by ground-based high-frequency radar used to track the ionosphere.

The scientists believe that these dense patches of plasma could be gas that was ionized by the HAARP emissions.

"This is the really exciting part - we've made a little artificial piece of ionosphere," Pedersen said.

"The novelty is not seeing the aurora - it's the fact that we can actually create enough high-energy electrons to form plasma," said Mike Kosch, chair of Experimental Space Science at Lancaster University, UK.

"It shows something completely different and new that we hadn't expected. We didn't know we could do that from a radio array on the ground," he added.

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:01 AM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:22 PM PDT
Wednesday, 14 October 2009
Portland Human Rights Meeting Video
Mood:  bright
Now Playing: The Portland monthly meeting is now viewable

Portland Human Rights Meeting

Full Version Video from 10.7.09



This meeting is open to the public

The full video is 1.hr 49.min

5 short video out-takes from the 2 hour meeting
1. "The Dream Act" 
2. "Public Notice" 
3. "Accountability" 
4. "Police Relations" 
5. "Public Announcement" 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 6:59 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 18 October 2009 4:58 AM PDT
Tuesday, 13 October 2009
Videos: Iran & Nukes & Diss-Info
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: Wake Up !
Topic: WAR

Scott Ritter on Iran 10-6-09http://www.politube.org/show/2118 (English, 22 minutes, uploaded 7 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date: 2009-10-06) Scott Ritter, Fmr. U.N. Weapons Inspector in Iraq (1991-98), discussed his London Guardian op-ed which challenges the idea that Iran is close to producing a nuclear weapon.  Download here...


.... I filmed Scott Ritter at a event here in Portland at Lincoln High School
Here is that link from him speaking back in 2008



Videos: Iran & Nukes & Diss-Info Links

Now Playing: Wake Up !



1.  Exclusive Interview with Iran's Head Of Atomic Energy

 (English, 27 minutes, uploaded 11 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-02) Interview with Dr. Akbar Salehi on the current phase in the nuclear negotiations
presstv  http://www.politube.org/show/2099 

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2.  US intelligence wasn’t sure about second Iranian enrichment facility (English, 6 minutes, uploaded 8 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-02) US intelligence didn’t know as much about the second Iranian enrichment facility as they made it appear in the news coverage, says US investigative journalist Gareth Porter.
russiatoday  http://www.politube.org/show/2117


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3.  Scott Ritter on Iran

(English, 22 minutes, uploaded 7 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-06) Scott Ritter, Fmr. U.N. Weapons Inspector in Iraq (1991-98), discussed his London Guardian op-ed which challenges the idea that Iran is close to producing a nuclear weapon.
cspan  http://www.politube.org/show/2118
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4.  Beneath the hype: Is Iran close to nukes?

(English, 24 minutes, uploaded 5 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-08) Retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern speaks on disinformation, Iran, and "faith-based intelligence"
therealnews.com  http://www.politube.org/show/2119 
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5.  US scrapped missile defense “not just to please Russia”

(English, 3 minutes, uploaded about 2 hours ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-13) The US dropped its plans for its missile defense shield in Europe not only to please Moscow, but after a careful study of possible threats from Iran, Charles Kupchan from the US Council on Foreign Relations told RT.
russiatoday  http://www.politube.org/show/2134 
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6.  US intelligence wasn’t sure about second Iranian enrichment facility

(English, 6 minutes, uploaded 8 days ago by vertigo, broadcast date:2009-10-02) US intelligence didn’t know as much about the second Iranian enrichment facility as they made it appear in the news coverage, says US investigative journalist Gareth Porter.
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Posted by Joe Anybody at 7:10 AM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:24 PM PDT
Sunday, 11 October 2009
Irans nuke facility and USA media Bullshit
Mood:  d'oh
Now Playing: Analysis finds holes in US Iran story: US may have pretended to know about facility
Topic: WAR




 Analysis finds holes in US Iran story:


US may have pretended to know about facility


http://rawstory.com/2009/09/analysis-finds-holes-in-us-iran-story-us-may-have-pretended-to-know-about-facility/By Gareth Porter

 Wednesday, September 30th, 2009 -- 7:25 am

The story line that dominated media coverage of the second Iranian uranium enrichment facility last week was the official assertion that U.S. intelligence had caught Iran trying to conceal a "secret" nuclear facility.


But an analysis of the transcript of that briefing by senior administration officials that was the sole basis for the news stories and other evidence reveals damaging admissions, conflicts with the facts and unanswered questions that undermine its credibility.


Iran's notification to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) of the second enrichment facility in a letter on Sep. 21 was buried deep in most of the news stories and explained as a response to being detected by U.S. intelligence. In reporting the story in that way, journalists were relying entirely on the testimony of "senior administration officials" who briefed them at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh Friday.


U.S. intelligence had "learned that the Iranians learned that the secrecy of the facility was compromised", one of the officials said, according to the White House transcript. The Iranians had informed the IAEA, he asserted, because "they came to believe that the value of the facility as a secret facility was no longer valid..."

 Later in the briefing, however, the official said "we believe", rather than "we learned", in referring to that claim, indicating that it is only an inference rather than being based on hard intelligence.

The official refused to explain how U.S. analysts had arrived at that conclusion, but an analysis by the defence intelligence consulting firm IHS Jane's of a satellite photo of the site taken Saturday said there is a surface-to-air missile system located at the site.


Since surface-to-air missiles protect many Iranian military sites, however, their presence at the Qom site doesn't necessarily mean that Iran believed that Washington had just discovered the enrichment plant.


The official said the administration had organised an intelligence briefing on the facility for the IAEA during the summer on the assumption that the Iranians might "choose to disclose the facility themselves". But he offered no explanation for the fact that there had been no briefing given to the IAEA or anyone else until Sep. 24 - three days after the Iranians disclosed the existence of the facility.


A major question surrounding the official story is why the Barack Obama administration had not done anything – and apparently had no plans to do anything - with its intelligence on the Iranian facility at Qom prior to the Iranian letter to the IAEA. When asked whether the administration had intended to keep the information in its intelligence briefing secret even after the meeting with the Iranians on Oct. 1, the senior official answered obliquely but revealingly, "I think it's impossible to turn back the clock and say what might have been otherwise."

 In effect, the answer was no, there had been no plan for briefing the IAEA or anyone.

News media played up the statement by the senior administration official that U.S. intelligence had been "aware of this facility for years".


But what was not reported was that he meant only that the U.S. was aware of a possible nuclear site, not one whose function was known.


The official in question acknowledged the analysts had not been able to identify it as an enrichment facility for a long time. In the "very early stage of construction," said the official, "a facility like this could have multiple uses." Intelligence analysts had to "wait until the facility had reached the stage of construction where it was undeniably intended for use as a centrifuge facility," he explained.


The fact that the administration had made no move to brief the IAEA or other governments on the site before Iran revealed its existence suggests that site had not yet reached that stage where the evidence was unambiguous.

 A former U.S. official who has seen the summary of the administration's intelligence used to brief foreign governments told IPS he doubts the intelligence community had hard evidence that the Qom site was an enrichment plant. "I think they didn't have the goods on them," he said.

Also misleading was the official briefing's characterisation of the intelligence assessment on the purpose of the enrichment plant. The briefing concluded that the Qom facility must be for production of weapons-grade enriched uranium, because it will accommodate only 3,000 centrifuges, which would be too few to provide fuel for a nuclear power plant.


According to the former U.S. official who has read the briefing paper on the intelligence assessment, however, the paper says explicitly that the Qom facility is "a possible military facility". That language indicates that intelligence analysts have suggested that the facility may be for making low-enriched rather than for high-enriched, bomb-grade uranium.

 It also implies that the senior administration official briefing the press was deliberately portraying the new enrichment facility in more menacing terms than the actual intelligence assessment.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's offer the day after the denunciation of the site by U.S., British and French leaders to allow IAEA monitoring of the plant will make it far more difficult to argue that it was meant to serve military purposes.


The circumstantial evidence suggests that Iran never intended to keep the Qom facility secret from the IAEA but was waiting to make it public at a moment that served its political-diplomatic objectives.


The Iranian government is well aware of U.S. capabilities for monitoring from satellite photographs any site in Iran that exhibits certain characteristics.


Iran obviously wanted to make the existence of the Qom site public before construction on the site would clearly indicate an enrichment purpose. But it gave the IAEA no details in its initial announcement, evidently hoping to find out whether and how much the United States already knew about it.


The specific timing of the Iranian letter, however, appears to be related to the upcoming talks between Iran and the P5+1 - China, France, Britain, Russia, the United States and Germany - and an emerging Iranian strategy of smaller back-up nuclear facilities that would assure continuity if Natanz were attacked.


The Iranian announcement of that decision on Sep. 14 coincided with a statement by the head of Iran's atomic energy organisation, Ali Akbar Salehi, warning against preemptive strikes against the country's nuclear facilities.


The day after the United States, Britain and France denounced the Qom facility as part of a deception, Salehi said, "Considering the threats, our organisation decided to do what is necessary to preserve and continue our nuclear activities. So we decided to build new installations which will guarantee the continuation of our nuclear activities which will never stop at any cost."


As satellite photos of the site show, the enrichment facility at Qom is being built into the side of a mountain, making it less vulnerable to destruction, even with the latest bunker-busting U.S. bombs.


The pro-administration newspaper Kayhan quoted an "informed official" as saying that Iran had told the IAEA in 2004 that it had to do something about the threat of attack on its nuclear facilities "repeatedly posed by the western countries".


The government newspaper called the existence of the second uranium enrichment plan "a winning card" that would increase Iran's bargaining power in the talks. That presumably referred to neutralising the ultimate coercive threat against Iran by the United States.


* Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.

 Originally published by Inter Press Service.




  • musashi
lets make the middle east nuke free, lets see, who is armed to the teeth with nukes built
  • Kevin
Haven't we been interfering with Iran long enough?
Likely there wouldn't even have been a revolution, had we not twisted their political system according to our own whims (a.k.a. lust for petroleum).
And isn't self-defense a recognized right of anyone on the planet--person or nation? If I had a psycho neighbor like Israel, I'd want nukes too. Besides...who the hell will stand up and say it's our right just 'cause we're the USA, but not Iran's. And let's not forget that Iran IS under constant threat from Israel and the US for doing the exact same things we've done and/or are doing.
We, the USA, wants to negotiate on the international stage from a position of strength, security, and what we want to think is morality. I bet Iran, and her people, want the same thing. Guess what? They can't. They can only negotiate right now from a standpoint of fear and paranoia. If we were in the same position, you can bet your bottom dollar we'd literally move mountains (like Iran is doing) to get nukes. It's understandable to a six-year-old.
If we want no nukes, let's lead by example, like any good commander must assuredly do. Leadership is done by LEADING. Enough of "do as I say, not as I do."

If the USA grew a set of nads about Israel, maybe other nations would feel a little more respect, and a little less fear. Maybe they wouldn't NEED nukes. I don't like Ahmedinijad any more than I liked GW Bush. But he's correct that nuke energy is the right of every nation. We have no right to browbeat them into doing things we, ourselves, will not do.

I think the CIA has fucked this situation up for us for longer than anyone alive remembers. Why do we believe the CIA at all? They are, if I'm not mistaken, professional liars. Hey! Here's an unusual idea: why don't we scrap the CIA altogether. And then we could begin, oh, I don't know...telling the truth, treating other nations even-handedly, and not accepting lies from our "allies" any more than we accept lies from our "enemies".
A part of that honesty would be to say, "you know, we're only interested in 1)oil, and 2)not being attacked...and Israel has no oil." It'd rather change the equation, don't you think?
If we'd not made religious whackos out of Iran, they'd have probably been pretty good friends and allies. Because of large corporations and the CIA, it'll be a long, long time before they're either.
Just my two cents.
  • damixaustex
Very well put.
I see a few positive things happening toward your view.
-The US is finally openly talking to Iran. Finally.
-The coverage of their election plight, I think, did a lot more to help Americans understand Iranians and feel more connected. I think Americans secretly wish they were allowed to protest like the Iranians did. Sure, didn't end so well there, but here? Same protests would have been much, much worse, much sloppier.
-The clincher- who currently controls the airspace between Israel and Iran? The only direct flight of missiles or fighters is either across an unwilling Arab country or Iraq. The US is right in the middle and would have to be complicit in a preemptive Israeli attack. My opinion, that ain't gonna happen. We're sick of war.
  • Elim
We are allowed to protest like the Iranians, but we're so zombified by television, internet, cellphones and mp3 downloads, we won't get off our fat lazy butts to go out into the streets to do what they did. Absolutely shameful.
  • damixaustex
Yeah, a lot of people are more satisfied than they profess, and yes, some lack conviction, but some are just afraid to protest and won't admit it.

We've been brainwashed into thinking it's still allowed and we're "free" to do it, but deep down people know the various local govt's won't let them until their "group" has been fully vetted.

Tried to protest spontaneously lately? I dare ya!

They look at it now like you should have a permit; the lack of one is reason enough to make you disperse. On TV, they report lack of permit, show a little fake violence or the one person who's throwing something or acting wildly, and the viewers agree it should be broken up.

If I want to protest the government, why would I want to get a permit from it to do so?

This is why I say Americans are developing an admiration for Iranians. They want freedom, like we do, and they still have the drive to make it happen.
  • tvfreezone
More lies and paranoia-induced delusion coming from the CIA? There is no evidence that Iran is building a bomb, just fear. Yes, let's scrap the CIA. Fat chance. When an empire permits the existence of a secret fear machine, it has one foot in the grave and the other in a bear trap. The CIA is self perpetuating. Sure, its funding could be entirely discontinued by Congress but, yawn, there's no leadership there.
  • bayside
And the neo cons obama keeps appointing in his administration are continuing bushs policies. But we know what they are doing now..
  • dotmafia
we always did know what the neocons were doing, but nobody would listen or open their eyes and see the warped american ultra-patriotic propaganda.
  • Thomas Jefferson
continuing to push teh stupid ball forward.
  • notausername
Somebody is paying attention!! The rest of us have learned big ZERO from the Iraq "mushroom clound", "WMD", "Mobile labs", .... Nothing new here...move along.
  • Terrible
This isn't the least bit surprising since those guilty of using forged documents and illegal domestic propaganda and lies to take the US military into an illegal war of aggression have yet to be brought to justice. They think they can continue to get away with it. But the majority of the American citizens are getting some feed up with this anti--American right wing radical bullshit!!!
  • tbahrain
Trust Mr. Porter to always come up with an in-depth analysis and clears the ambiguity. Off-topic:

Seems Senator David "Shitter" Vitter has the balls to take on the made-up ACORN scandal. Really. A guy made this great video slamming the "Shitter." Watch the video, rate it(we want it on the most viewed list), then make the call. Post the video to your facebook so all your friends will call and bug the "crap" out of them.

  • thepoliticalcat
Srsly, that is hilarious!
  • NaderPaulKucinichGravel
Known since construction started
Years and years

"impossible to turn back the clock "
No accountability for Government
No justice for Government
  • Brandon
I guess we need another war in order to continue the american charade.
  • SoCalPragmatist
The existence of this facility has been known for YEARS...I remember looking at it via Google Earth at least 3 years ago. Just Google the words "Qom" and "nuclear" and you'll see references going back as far as 2005!!

  • onlyone
At first the American government, or at least the part of it that seems to be in control of such things, imposed an authoritarian monarchy on Iranians; you know, like the one in Saudi Arabia. I ask, why would the great Democracy do this and at the same time so blatantly turn its back on its own history and principles? Indeed the story is the same almost everywhere America goes when claiming to free the people in the name of democracy.

It all begins as a pretext, covering up for the true reason; ask any Vietnamese and they will tell you what their war with America was really about, OIL! (there are huge reserves of oil off its coast) It eventually ends in dictatorship however and whether or not the gambit is itself successful, the population shall fall into the hands of people brutal enough to maintain it. Yet invariably, it isn't because of the brutality perpetrated against its people or even its form of governance, that cause America's geo-political interests and supporters to hate the current regime in Iran. Its because they have been told NO! We need not look far for similar examples of American duplicity expressed elsewhere in the region, where most leaders have said YES, and where exists a general inability of the people there as well as in Iran, to effectively throw out these thugs and dictators.

In all, it is the usurpation and at times, the downright theft of the natural resources of those who are perceived to be weak and therefore unable to defend themselves, which is at the heart of this game that America plays around the world. Unless that is, like the Israelis and N Koreans have found, you make everyone believe you are bat shit crazy enough and willing to use nuclear weapons, real or not, to protect your country; such deception is better known as black mail, and countries like Iran, Burma and other incipient nuclear manipulators will be added to a growing list of counties, actually all of them, who are willing to use the bomb in this way.
  • geo1671
What really bothers me,the Juice have been bad mouthing the germans since 1932 and they take it. Now Germany has saddled with the USA/UK/French thugs to protect Israel.
Get this, 3 years ago, Germany developed one of the most advanced submarines,with mechanics to accomdate nukes. Between 6 to 7 were GIVEN to Israel.Just like Saudia Arabia--19 terrorist attackers 911,even though it was Made in USA self attack,the Saudias didn't demand a proper investigation. What gives? Are Jews that poerfull or money talks kosher. No wonder Jewish money is called Shackles :^/
  • moi2cents

Can we leave "jews" out of it? This has zero to do with judaism, but a hell of a lot to do with unprincipled power, and paranoia, and fear. Of course, many, many people, of all nations, and of just about all cultures, justify their untenable wants and practices by reference to their imaginary friends.
Oftentimes, however, there are no justifications to be found in those belief systems save the ones spun up by people claiming to be adherents to those belief systems. Jews do not, in particular, have a corner on that market.

I find no credibility in ascribing lawful or moral authority to any of them.
  • geo1671
Re; Mio2cent's comment-'Can we leave "jews" out of it? This has zero to do with judaism"..
FYI:^) Jews control Washington establishment, all major media Video/Print/publishing, Hollywood, militray Industry complex, Banking Money System, Stock exchanges, Major recycling,Food processing plants, Hotel chains, Resorts and they own you to fight their dirty wars.
Hard to forget USS LIBERTY KILLINGS and COVER-UP by the Jews.I guess , in your silly rants would put the blame on Arabs.
It is well known,that the 4 War Crimimials of WWII, where Stalin, Churchill,Roosevelt, Hitler and all from Jewish bloodlines. Only Hitler kept his real Jewish name. Over 60 million died for the creation of Israel--- and yet they again got away with pulling off 911 attacks.
Really sucks,Big Time, in how stupid slaves think!
  • Mr. Neutron
It's not a "uranium enrichment facility" until the centrifuges and uranium are inside the facility.
So far, it is just an empty building inside a mountain, therefore Iran was not required, by the NNPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, you know, the Treaty that all civilized countries have signed)(not Israel) to report this empty building until a certain amount of time before occupation.

Iran claims that it is not bound by the revised Code 3.1 of its Subsidiary Arrangement with the IAEA and, therefore, they need to announce new facilities only 180 days before nuclear material enters the site and material will not be introduced for at least 6 months as of last Monday, when Iran sent the letter to the IAEA.

The U.S. and Israel *HATE IT* when Iran abides by the NNPT, obeying it to the letter. That's why they are trying to use the UN Security Council to "punish" Iran, because the IAEA cannot do anything to a country that is perfectly compliant with the NNPT. Unfortunately for the bullies, China and Russia have a Veto to their illegal sanctions - the U.S. can only bribe them with economic carrots for so long, and now the U.S. is economically weaker than ever...
  • Ted
The notions of secrecy and ill intent have been the only evidence that US and its attack dog Isreal have been reliant upon to push their line of aggression. However, the facility is well with in the NPT guide liens and as such has been referred to by IAEA.

Fact that no treaty or agreement seems to be of any interest to US, UK, Isreal, begs the question why the rest of the world is not withdrawing from all the treaties, and get on with their own versions thereof as in the case of the vociferous trio.

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