Zebra 3 Report by Joe Anybody
Friday, 26 June 2009
Torture Protest - Impeach Judge ByBee - Portland Oregon 6.25.09
Now Playing: STOP TORTURE - Protest Pictures from Portland
Pictures from the torture Protest in Portland Oregon on last Thursday
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 11:08 PM PDT
Updated: Friday, 26 June 2009 11:11 PM PDT
Wednesday, 17 June 2009
Torture Rape - or is it Fake
Now Playing: The truth and the resaons for lies about Torture and Rape
Staged photos lifted from porn websites purporting to be images of U.S. troops raping female detainees at Abu Ghraib are again circulating at the height of the torture scandal, discrediting the very real and admitted accounts of rape described in Major General Antonio Taguba’s military report into the Abu Ghraib prison.
Despite the fact that these photos were vehemently discredited and proven to be taken from porn websites when they first emerged in 2004, they are again being erroneously cited as examples of photos showing rape that the Obama administration is blocking from public release - providing debunkers with ammunition to dismiss the validity of the torture scandal altogether.
In light of the Pentagon and the White House’s bizarre efforts to deny the reality of their own internal investigation and pull a crude bait and switch yesterday in claiming that the blocked photos do not show rape, it can only be assumed that these fake photos are again being pushed as a means of discrediting the proven instances of U.S. prison guards and others raping women and children at Abu Ghraib and other detention facilities.
“New photos obtained by Press TV have revealed alleged sexual harassment and rape of Iraqi prisoners at US-run Abu Ghraib detention center by American soldiers. The alleged pictures illustrate American soldiers raping and sexually harassing Iraqi detainees,” states the report.
However, the photos do not illustrate American soldiers at all, the uniforms worn by the men in the images are clearly not those worn by U.S. troops in Iraq, they are cheap military fatigues that anyone could find at Wal-Mart or any other discount clothing store.
Furthermore, it was admitted five years ago that the photos were taken from porn websites after they were first published by the Boston Globe.
“Graphic photos appearing on Arabic websites of U.S. servicemen raping and sexually abusing Iraqi women were actually taken from American and Hungarian pornography sites,” reported World Net Daily.
The photos, which were published under the headline “The Abu Ghraib Prison Photos,” by a Tunisian website, were lifted from an American porn website called “Babes in Iraq,” as well as a Hungarian porn website called “Sex in War.”
The websites were registered under the HotSpotCity.com domain, which hosts “cheap unrestricted adult XXX porn websites” and is a subsidiary of MacNew Enterprises. Owner Linda MacNew told World Net Daily that the photos had originated from the porn websites and they were subsequently shut down.
The Boston Globe later had to apologize for publishing the fake photos.
The fact that the photos are being cited as proof of rape at Abu Ghraib when they are clearly lifted from amateur porn websites, a point that was confirmed no less than five years ago, makes it highly suspicious that these images are again circulating as the torture scandal reaches new heights and threatens to embroil top Democrats, who are complicit because they gave their approval for the Bush torture program in the first place.
It seems that every time the torture scandal escalates, fake images, video and testimony is released to poison the well and convince the public that the whole issue is a hoax.
In May 2006, a video emerged in which a self-proclaimed Army Ranger called Jesse MacBeth claimed that his unit was told to kill Iraqi men, their wives and children indiscriminately if they didn’t explicitly follow orders. The video became wildly popular on the Internet but soon turned out to be a hoax, there was no record of MacBeth being an Army Ranger.
As soon as the video was declared a hoax, neo-cons like Michelle Malkin jumped on the issue to claim that accounts of Iraqis being indiscriminately killed were all fraudulent, despite the fact that a BBC News interview with soldiers who had served in Iraq, in which the troops admitted to witnessing war crimes, proved the allegations of indiscriminate murder to be true.
Similarly, at the height of the Abu Ghraib scandal in May 2004, the London Mirror published photos of British soldiers allegedly urinating on detainees in Iraq. The images were later proven to be fraudulent and the hoax was exploited by the corporate media and the government to discredit other proven cases of torture and abuse carried out by British soldiers in Iraq.
We see the same pattern over and over again - every time the torture scandal escalates, fake images are released to poison the well and dampen outrage about the very real torture and sexual abuse of women and children that is documented in the U.S. military’s own internal report into the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.
The fact that Press TV and the individual quoted in the article have fallen for this simplistic propaganda yet again is beyond belief. It’s a case of ‘fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.’ We have alerted them to the hoax and hope to see the story removed as soon as possible before people like Michelle Malkin cite it as proof that the very real rape scandal is non-existent.
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 11:38 PM PDT
Updated: Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:43 PM PDT
Thursday, 21 May 2009
GITMO will be closing, so says Obama
Now Playing: Closing Guantanamo - Obama sticks to his word
US prisons tough enough for detainees
President Barack Obama delivers an address on national security, terrorism, and the closin...
By STEVEN R. HURST, AP
Thu May 21, 12:32 PM EDT
President Barack Obama forcefully defended his plans to close the Guantanamo detention camp Thursday and said some of the terror suspects held there would be brought to top-security prisons in the United States despite fierce opposition in Congress.
He spoke one day after the Senate voted resoundingly to deny him money to close the prison, and he decried "fear-mongering" that he said had led to such opposition.
He insisted the transfer would not endanger Americans and promised to work with lawmakers to develop a system for holding detainees who can't be tried and can't be turned loose from the Navy-run prison in Cuba.
"There are no neat or easy answers here," Obama said in a speech in which he pledged anew to clean up what he said was "quite simply a mess" at Guantanamo that he had inherited from the Bush administration.
Moments after Obama concluded, former Vice President Dick Cheney delivered his own address across town defending the decisions of the Bush administration in dealing with terrorism. Expressing no remorse for the actions the Bush White House had ordered, Cheney said under the same circumstances he would make the same decisions "without hesitation."
Obama noted that roughly 500 detainees already had been released by the Bush administration. There are 240 at Guantanamo now. The president said that 50 of those had been cleared to be sent to other countries — although he did not identify which countries might be willing to take them.
Obama conceded that some Guantanamo detainees would end up in U.S. prisons and said those facilities were tough enough to house even the most dangerous inmates.
Obama decried arguments used against his plans.
"We will be ill-served by the fear-mongering that emerges whenever we discuss this issue," he declared.
Speaking at the National Archives, Obama said he wouldn't do anything to endanger the American people.
He said opening and continuing the military prison "set back the moral authority that is America's strongest currency in the world."
Obama spoke in front of a copy of the Constitution, to members of the Judge Advocate General's Corps, diplomatic, policy and development officials and representatives of civil liberties groups.
"I can tell you that the wrong answer is to pretend like this problem will go away if we maintain an unsustainable status quo," Obama said. "As president, I refuse to allow this problem to fester. Our security interests won't permit it. Our courts won't allow it. And neither should our conscience."
Obama said his administration was in the process of studying each of the remaining Guantanamo detainees "to determine the appropriate policies for dealing with them."
"Nobody has ever escaped from one of our `supermax' prisons which hold hundreds of convicted terrorists," Obama said.
Obama used the speech as an effort to try to retake the initiative on the matter. He spoke a day after the Senate, led by majority Democrats, followed the lead of the House and voted decisively to deny his request for $80 million to close the prison. Lawmakers said they would block the funds until he gave a more detailed accounting of what would happen to the detainees.
He provided some details in his speech but stopped short of offering specifics on what to do with detainees who won't be tried for war crimes but are likely to be held indefinitely.
He described this group as those "who cannot be prosecuted yet who pose a clear danger to the American people."
"I want to be honest: This is the toughest issue we will face," Obama said.
He said his administration would "exhaust every avenue that we have" to prosecute detainees but there would still be some left "who cannot be prosecuted for past crimes" yet remain a threat.
Among these, he said, are prisoners who have expressed allegiance to Osama bin Laden "or otherwise made it clear they want to kill Americans."
"So going forward, my administration will work with Congress to develop an appropriate legal regime" to handle such detainees "so that our efforts are consistent with our values and our Constitution."
Obama criticized what he said was an effort to politicize the issue.
"I know that the politics in Congress will be difficult. These issues are fodder for 30-second commercials and direct mail pieces that are designed to frighten. I get it. But if we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear, we will make more mistakes," he said.
Obama said he had no intention of looking back and "relitigating the policies" of the Bush administration.
But at the same time, he strongly criticized former President George W. Bush's actions. "Our government made decisions based upon fear rather than foresight and all too often trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions," he said.
"In other words, we went off course."
The president again rejected the idea of an independent commission that would investigate the whole range of national security issues under the Bush administration.
"I recognize that many still have a strong desire to focus on the past. When it comes to the actions of the last eight years, some Americans are angry; others want to re-fight debates that have been settled, most clearly at the ballot box in November," Obama said.
"I know that these debates lead directly to a call for a fuller accounting, perhaps through an independent commission," he said. But he insisted that "our existing democratic institutions are strong enough to deliver accountability."
He also defended his decision to try to block the court-ordered release of detainee abuse photos. "Release would inflame anti-American opinion" and threaten American soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama said. His decision against releasing the photos has been criticized by human-rights groups.
Obama had first suggested he would allow the photos to be released, but changed his mind after listening to advice from the military and intelligence advisers.
On another recent controversy, he defended his decision to release CIA interrogation memos, saying there was "no overriding reason to protect them." He said the interrogation methods, which included waterboarding, were already known — and that he had banned them.
Cheney praised Obama for two "wise" decisions — his handling of the war in Afghanistan and his decision to try to block the court-ordered release of detainee-abuse photos. "He deserves our support" for such actions, Cheney said.
But, the former vice president said, the current administration's actions on Guantanamo and other steps in the war against terrorism "should not be based on slogans and campaign rhetoric, but on a truthful telling of history."
Cheney has become the most outspoken high-ranking Bush official in criticizing the Obama team, suggesting steps the new president has taken have made the country less safe.
Cheney denounced Obama's announcement on his second day in office that he would close Guantanamo. He said the decision came with "little deliberation and no plan."
"Now, the president says some of these terrorists should be brought to American soil for trial in our court system. Others, he says, will be shipped to third countries. But so far, the United States has had little luck getting other countries to take hardened terrorists."
Cheney spoke at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank.
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 9:50 AM PDT
Saturday, 9 May 2009
Children ask Rice about USA Torture
Now Playing: Children know best - Rice scrambles to stem torture talk at school event
Z3 Readers check this article out. I had heard a young kid at a school had asked Condi Rice a torture question... well it was more than "one question" ... read here how Rice was "grilled" and how she "tries to" control the questioning with 911 SCARE tactics and "tough" 'We Dont Torture' .... problem was this child and me and millions other all "know better" .... this is an excellent account of one small kid standing up to the crime family of America and the torture provocateurs
Babes in Torture Land
It Took a Bunch of Kids to Grill Condi the Way the Media Should Have
On April 6, 1977, David Frost was having a particularly difficult time interviewing former President Richard Nixon. Frost's colleague James Reston, Jr. suggested a new line of questioning, one used earlier in the trial of former Nixon aide John Ehrlichman: Were there no limits to what a president can do, even if it's plainly illegal? Could he do anything despite the law?
"If the president does it,that means it's not illegal," Nixon notoriously replied, arguing, "that in war time, a president does have certain extraordinary powers which would make acts that would otherwise be unlawful, lawful if undertaken for the purpose of preserving the nation and the Constitution"
While speaking recently at Stanford University, where she steadfastly defended the Bush Administration's "enhanced interrogation" policies, ex-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice revealed herself to be a Summa Cum Laude graduate of the Richard M. Nixon School of Government.
"We did not torture anyone," Rice told the Stanford students. "The president instructed us that nothing we would do would be outside of our obligations, legal obligations, under the Convention Against Torture And so, by definition, if it was authorized by the president, it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture."
From Nixon to Bush and beyond, such contentions have seemingly passed muster with large swaths of both America's citizenry and its press. Now, however, challenges are finally emerging to such dangerous and unconstitutional ideas -- albeit from some unlikely sources. Have you ever heard the saying, for example, "Out of the mouths of babes?" Biblical in origin, the phrase is most often used when truth bubbles up unexpectedly -- such as when a young person says something that surprises because it shows what we expect to be an adult's wisdom and understanding
And so it was recently in our nation's capital, as Secretary Rice made "her first Washington appearance since leaving office" to speak to students at the Jewish Primary Day School -- only to be pressed once again on the troublesome topic of torture, just days after telling the Stanford undergraduates that the gruesome form of torture euphemistically known as waterboarding was "by definition" legal "if it was authorized by the president."
After years of facing softballs from a doting Washington press corps, Rice must have been taken aback as she fielded still more questions about torture -- from a 4th-Grader no less! As reported in the Washington Post, Rice "held forth amiably before a few dozen students about her love of Israel, travel abroad and the importance of learning languages" before opening the floor to their questions. The inquiries, developed by students with the assistance of their teachers, had not been screened in advance by Rice.
"At first, they were innocuous," noted Post Staff Reporter Alec MacGillis. "What was it like growing up in segregated Birmingham, Ala.? What skill did she want to be best known for?"
Then a fourth-grader named Misha Lerner asked a tough one: what did Rice think about the things President Obama's administration had been saying concerning methods used by the previous administration to get information from detainees? (According to Misha's mother, Inna, her son had originally come up with an even tougher question: "If you would work for Obama's administration, would you push for torture?" But Misha's teachers apparently acted as editors: "They wanted him to soften it and take out the word 'torture,'" Ms. Lerner explained. "But the essence of it was the same.")
"Let me just say that President Bush was very clear that he wanted to do everything he could to protect the country," Rice responded. "After September 11, we wanted to protect the country. But he was also very clear that we would do nothing, nothing, that was against the law or against our obligations internationally. So the president was only willing to authorize policies that were legal in order to protect the country."
Rice's response to the Babes in TortureLand echoed what she had said earlier at Stanford, while pleading for sympathy: "I hope you understand that it was a very difficult time. We were all so terrified of another attack on the country." Nevertheless, she reiterated, "Even under those most difficult circumstances, the president was not prepared to do something illegal"
Despite her contention, one student still demanded, "How are we supposed to continue promoting America as this guiding light of democracy and how are we supposed to win hearts and minds in the world as long as we continue with these actions?"
"Well, first of all, you do what's right," Rice replied. "That's the most important thing -- that you make a judgment of what's right.
"And I'll tell you something," she continued. "Unless you were there in a position of responsibility after September 11th, you cannot possibly imagine the dilemmas that you faced in trying to protect Americans. And I know a lot of people are second-guessing now, but let me tell you what second-guessing would really have hurt me -- if the second-guessing had been about 3,000 more Americans dying because we didn't do everything we could to protect them." Apparently when you're in that position of responsibility, it helps to be 'tough-minded" like Bush and Rice.
"Foreign policy is full of tough choices. Very tough choices," Rice explained. "The world is not a bunch of easy choices in which you get to make ones that always feel good."
Rice's student questioner then pointed out that our government had never resorted to torture, "Even in World War II, as we faced Nazi Germany -- probably the greatest threat that America has ever faced."
She quickly shot back, "And we didn't torture anybody here either. Alright?"
"Is waterboarding torture?" the student then asked.
"I just said -- the United States was told, we were told, nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture," Rice maintained. "And so, by definition, if it was authorized by the president, it did not violate our obligations under the Conventions Against Torture."
Yes, but is waterboarding torture? And if so, is it illegal -- even when the president condones it? Or are there no limits to what a president can do, even if it's patently illegal? Can the president do anything despite the law? Unless someone in the Obama Administration soon starts asking uncomfortable questions like those coming out of the mouths of babes like Misha Lerner, the Nixon/Bush/Rice position that we live in a nation ruled by men -- and not laws - may yet prevail.
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 1:13 PM PDT
Monday, 4 May 2009
Dont Lie To Children.... About THE USA Using Torture
Now Playing: Rice takes question from 4th-grader on torture - then lies about it
GOOD GREIF Z3 Readers....
Rice takes question from 4th-grader on torture
WASHINGTON — Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Jewish elementary school students that the Bush administration did not use illegal interrogation tactics. Her remarks were in response to a question from Misha Lerner, a fourth-grader at the Jewish Primary Day School of the Nation's Capital, The Washington Post reported Monday.
Rice spoke at the school Sunday before giving a lecture at the Sixth & I Historic Synagogue.
Lerner asked Rice what she thought about the Obama administration's remarks on interrogation methods authorized by its predecessors.
Rice responded that she didn't want to criticize President Barack Obama. But she also said that President George W. Bush assured his administration that "we would do nothing, nothing, that was against the law or against our obligations internationally."
"I hope you understand that it was a very difficult time. We were all so terrified of another attack on the country," she said. "Even under those most difficult circumstances, the president was not prepared to do something illegal, and I hope people understand that we were trying to protect the country."
Last week the former secretary of state told Stanford University students that "we did not torture anyone."
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 8:25 PM PDT
Updated: Monday, 4 May 2009 6:26 PM PDT
Thursday, 30 April 2009
Summertime ...Time for some USA fun sports ...like Waterboarding
Now Playing: Can I say "Fuck Torture" in America or is the slogan "I LOVE USA TORTURE"
Z3 Readers, know all too well that I CANT STAND TORTURE.
Here is an email link to a website that is urging Obama to "do something"
Waterboarding. Slamming into walls. Excruciating physical positions.
The United States tortured detainees after September 11, 2001. Make
sure this does not happen again. Call on the President to create a
non-partisan commission to investigate the torture and abuse of
detainees. Help protect America’s national security and re-establish
its standing in the world.
We call on the President of the United States to establish an
independent, non-partisan commission to examine and report publicly on
torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees in the
period since September 11, 2001. The commission, comparable in stature
to the 9/11 Commission, should look into the facts and circumstances of
such abuses, report on lessons learned, and recommend measures that
would prevent any future abuses. We believe that the commission is
necessary to reaffirm America ’s commitment to the Constitution,
international treaty obligations, and human rights. The report issued
by the commission will strengthen U.S. national security and help to
re-establish America’s standing in the world.
Co-Sponsors for COMMISSIONonACCOUNTABILITY.org
* Amnesty International USA
* The Brennan Center for Justice
* The Carter Center, Human Rights Program
* The Center for Human Rights and Global Justice, New York
University, School of Law
* Center for the Study of Human Rights in the Americas, UC Davis
* The Center for Victims of Torture
* The Constitution Project
* Human Rights Center, University of California, Berkeley
* Human Rights First
* Human Rights Watch
* International Center for Transitional Justice
* International Justice Network
* The Jacob Blaustein Institute for the Advancement of Human Rights
* Jewish Council for Public Affairs
* National Institute of Military Justice
* National Religious Campaign Against Torture
* The Open Society Institute
* Physicians for Human Rights
* The Rutherford Institute
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 12:01 AM PDT
Friday, 24 April 2009
Torture memos Revel....repost from twin cities indy media
Now Playing: Bush Torture Memos
BTL:Bush Torture Memos Reveal Premeditated Brutality
Bush Torture Memos Reveal Premeditated Brutality
Interview with Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, conducted by Scott Harris
After a heated debate among his advisers, President Obama released memos from Bush administration officials detailing their authorization of interrogation techniques used against terrorist suspects held by the U.S. that are widely acknowledged as acts of torture. The memos, released on April 16, described the use of water-boarding - or drowning techniques - used on two al-Qaeda suspects on 266 occasions, up to six times a day in one case.
CIA interrogators also subjected 14 high-level U.S.-held prisoners to sleep deprivation, forced nudity and the use of painful positions. The president declared that he would not prosecute CIA personnel who participated in torture and who had relied on Bush administration legal opinions issued after the September 11th attacks.
But Obama left the door open to possible future criminal prosecution of the Bush administration architects of the interrogation techniques, that violated both U.S. and international law. The president said it would be up to his Attorney General Eric Holder on whether or not to prosecute these officials, and urged that any congressional investigation be organized "in a bipartisan fashion." Former vice President Dick Cheney and Bush's CIA Director Michael Hayden have both criticized the release of the torture memos, asserting that the information will be useful to al-Qaeda. Between The Lines Scott Harris spoke with Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, who discusses what we've learned from the recently released torture memos and the need to hold government officials accountable for the commission of war crimes.
Michael Ratner is author of the book, "The Trial of Donald Rumsfeld, A Prosecution by Book." Contact the Center for Constitutional Rights by calling (212) 614-6464 or visit their website at www.ccrjustice.org
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Posted by Joe Anybody
at 12:01 AM PDT
Tuesday, 3 March 2009
private viewing at Mr Darksides place of the 92 missing Torture Tapes
Now Playing: 92 USA torture tapes ...have been destroyed (or have they?)
Hey Now Z3 Readers here is a stomach aching torture file blog. Seems Mr Darkside (war criminal cheney the dick) has been hiding the facts again.
Gee Mr Darkside, could it be the 92 tapes you had destroyed? What we have known for years here at Z3 headquarters is this type of criminal activity has been going on day and night and with no one holding these evil doers accountable.
Give me a break!
They must think we are stupid.
Well John Q Public may be ignorant and naive but the Z3 Report readers know all to well what is going on in them dark dank holes that fly USA flags over the entrance while they do the bidding for Mr Darkside and use criminal tactics in the name of justice.
I bet those 92 tapes contained some filthy shit. And it probably had a 'made in the USA' stamp on the box. Actually smooth dick probably has them at home in his family room for viewing privately.
Posted March 2, 2009 | 06:53 PM (EST)
92 Destroyed Tapes: A Need to Shed Light on Cheney's "Dark Side"
By: Coleen Rowley
When I first posed these hard questions in the NY Times about the C.I.A. torture tapes, we were all under the belief that only two tapes had been destroyed. Now that we know it was ninety two tapes, all kinds of further questions emerge. But the most pressing is this one: how can this still be swept under the rug?! Sweeping dark things under the rug is never the answer. And despite the crude attempt to avoid accountability by shredding the evidence, I can't imagine a time there was such a need for an independent prosecutor to shed light on what Cheney once termed "the dark side".
Published in NY Times: December 11, 2007
To the Editor:
Re ''C.I.A. Destroyed 2 Tapes Showing Interrogations''
(NY Times front page, Dec. 7):
You don't need to have worked as an F.B.I. agent for 24 years as I did to know that shredding the evidence is always a clue. What's the common thread underlying the C.I.A.'s destruction of videotaped harsh interrogations in the midst of ongoing legal inquiries; President Bush's last-minute commutation of Scooter Libby's prison sentence; the millions of White House e-mail records missing in violation of the Presidential Records Act; and the administration's current push to give immunity to the telecommunication companies suspected of engaging in illegal eavesdropping and surveillance of Americans?
Clearly, the only way the Bush gang can protect itself now from accountability is to suppress the truth. To do so, officials must destroy hard evidence and, at the same time, protect and immunize those who followed their illegal orders.
Their contempt for the rule of law cannot get much worse. They learned from Nixon's Watergate, and they're trying not to leave any Oval Office tapes around. Coleen Rowley
Apple Valley, Minn., Dec. 7, 2007
I noted that interrogators used the Abu Zubaydah torture tapes to intimidate other interrogation subjects.
I should have noted that even showing the torture tapes to captives would have been a violation of the Geneva Conventions.
I see three possibilities:
First, maybe interrogators were authorized to use tapes of Abu Zubaydah being tortured as an interrogation tool.
Second, maybe interrogators were not authorized to use the tapes of Abu Zubaydah as an interrogation tool, and were doing so on their own authority.
Third, maybe the tapes were a ruse de guerre, starring actors, who play-acted brutal torture. I believe that the use of tapes that realistically faked the depiction of torture would also be a violation of the Geneva Conventions.
The fourteen captives transferred from CIA custody in 2006 weren't the only captives who had been in CIA custody prior to being sent to Guantanamo. Several other former CIA captives were transferred to Guantanamo in 2003 and 2004. It is possible the torture tapes were only used on captives in CIA custody.
CIA Director Michael Hayden claimed that the torture tapes were recorded "for training purposes". It seems what he meant this was interrogators showed the tapes to other captives, to show them how far interrogators would go to get the answers they wanted.
Way back in 2004, when Guantanamo captive Ibrahim Mahdi Achmed Zeidan testified before his Combatant Status Review Tribunal he described the role the Abu Zubaydah torture tapes played in other captives' interrogations.
Back in 2004 the Guantanamo captives knew that Abu Zubaydah's torture sessions had been recorded -- because their interrogators had shown them those tapes. Meanwhile the Bush administration hid the existence of the tapes from Congress and the American people.
Here is a link to where Zeidan talks about Abu Zubaydah's torture. http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/761-ibrahim-mahdi-achmed-zeidan/documents/search?document_query=torture&x=19&y=10
Can we expect government to police itself...recent information including the destruction of 92 tapes indicate that there are no oversights in place to allow for an indepentent examination of apparent illegal and criminal behavior. I would so like to see justice done in what use to be the American way...but I am fearful that those days are gone.
With Obama in office I thought we would see a casting of light into dark places and an outcry regarding the dirt it uncovered....instead I'm still waiting for the 'change'. I know the economy is melting down and therefore takes the most focus, but unless we exam the behavior that lead us to this point, there can be no resolution or accountability. How much longer are we expected to wait? Until all documentation is destroyed?
As if America didn't have enough evil to account for in its history of bigotry and witchburning. Now we are dishonored even further. Thanks a lot, Dubya, Cheney, the CIA and anyone else who contributed to this kind of sneaky, unlawful, rule-breaking thuggery that made the world hate us. I want to see them on trial yesterday.
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 7:54 PM PST
Updated: Friday, 6 March 2009 9:06 PM PST
Tuesday, 24 February 2009
Abu Ghraib to Reopens (shhhhh! it has a new name)
Now Playing: Abu Ghraib new name is Baghdad Central Prison.
Abu Ghraib to Reopen
- complete with children's playground -
Published on 02-22-2009
Welcome back - Abu Ghraib's bad old days are over, claim jailers.
Now, nearly five years after its role in one of the world's biggest human rights abuse scandals, Iraq's Abu Ghraib jail has re-opened with a promise of decent conditions for inmates - including a gym, computer chatroom and hair salon.
The prison, which earned global notoriety in 2004 after US jailers filmed themselves tormenting and sexually abusing Iraqi prisoners, was shut down two years ago when America handed control of it to the new Iraqi government. Iraqi and US officials, who believed its closure would end what had become a symbolic rallying point for the anti-US insurgency, moved its inmates to another facility on the Kuwait border.
But yesterday, after a fresh lick of paint and extensive refurbishing, it officially opened its doors again, purporting to offer conditions more familiar to inmates of a prison in Scandinavia. As well as modern medical and dental facilities, there is a courtyard for visiting families that contains a children's playground and water fountain. Inmates also have a mosque, and will be able to sew their own clothes in a small sewing factory. Mindful of its fearsome reputation, Iraqi officials in charge of the makeover have even changed its name from Abu Ghraib to Baghdad Central Prison.
"The prison is officially open and we have received inmates. Hundreds are present," said prison director general Alsharif al-Murtadha Abdul al-Mutalib, who yesterday invited reporters to tour the jail, which is set behind watchtower-guarded walls in one of Baghdad's western suburbs. It will eventually be home to around 14,000 prisoners.
In all, 11 US soldiers were convicted of breaking military laws and five others were disciplined over the torture allegations in Abu Ghraib. American authorities implemented a series of reforms in the aftermath, although they still faced complaints about prolonged detentions without charges.
Conditions were far harsher there during Saddam's time, however, when the double gallows in the jail's execution chamber was in regular use, and cells were so over-crowded that inmates used to have to take turns to sleep. Just ahead of the US invasion in 2003, Saddam granted an amnesty to some 60,000 inmates that it was then holding, adding greatly to the law and order problems that beset Baghdad when his government finally fell.
Under a bilateral security agreement that calls for a full US withdrawal by the end of 2011, American commanders have to hand over around 14,000 Iraqis that they are still detaining as suspected insurgents or militia members.
Most of those detainees are expected to be freed without charge, but some will face trials under Iraqi law. Despite the promises made by Iraqi officials during yesterday's re-opening ceremony, human rights groups say prisoners in Iraqi custody are frequently beaten, abused and denied due process.
Last year, the Iraqi government said it would turn a section of the 280-acre prison into a museum documenting Saddam's crimes, but not the abuses committed by US guards.
Posted by Joe Anybody
at 2:32 PM PST
Updated: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:46 PM PST
Thursday, 12 February 2009
Hafizullah's held in GITMO with no trial is Innocent (duhh!)
Now Playing: Fucked up USA policy holds innocent man in Cuba prison - this is a war crime
Hi There my Friends, Family & Beloved Z3 Readers
Here is a good article from 2.7.09 that shows what I have been saying for yearsThe US bought “bad guys” (sic) and put them in GITMO
Never gave them a trial Tortured for years and years And still the US wont admit they did wrong
This is war crimes, this is Geneva Convention Crimes This article is “exactly” why the crime family who did this should be held accountable.
Shame on America for allowing this What a travesty I have been saying it Loud and Clear, which is of course, as you all know by now.
This article came out just a few days ago - from the (Yuck) Corporate AP Press More on GITMO that I am collecting on my website here:
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Posted by Joe Anybody
at 5:11 PM PST
Updated: Thursday, 12 February 2009 5:49 PM PST
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