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Thursday, 6 September 2007
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Seriously Pissed Off Grannies Stop TANK in Rose Parade in Portland Ore 699 6
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3 Denied Access To Public Servants Office 131 3
Homeless Sit Lie Protest Portland Oregon 111 0
6Peacemakers_Poem_Speeches_2of3_04102007.wmv 102 1
Surge Protection - Pissed Off Grannies - No Blood for Oil - 04202007 89 4
NO BLOOD FOR OIL RED RIVER 72 1
PEACEMAKERS GET ARRESTED 71 0
AgustinPSUJuly112007.wmv 65 1
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Earl'sOffice_Day21_IMPEACHMENT 53 2
City Hall Minuteman Rally 43 0
MediaMakingChange 43 6
Gratitude For Peace Tour 2007 38 6
EARL_DAY_35 36 1
Iraq Body Count Flag Memorial - Peace Inside 35 1
Earl_Blumenauer_8-2-07_IMPEACH_Rally_revised.wmv 33 2
Terry_Shrunk_Peace_Rally__5_Speeches.wmv 32 0
A_VetransMessageToBush.wmv 28 0
NO_Funds_For_WAR_Wyden's_Rally 23 0
Agustin Speech and Chants July 9 2007 20 0
DamageDoneFinalCut.wmv 18 0
OregonCountryFair2007 17 4
The Fallen Wall Makes A Bridge - PSU Student Presentation Of Their Border Trip 17 1
HailinMay2007withmusic.wmv 11 0
FIRE 2007 10 1
Ollie_Lake_Trees_Water_and_Rock.wmv 10 0
911 TRUTH march on July 4 2007 volume1 7 0
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Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:30 PM PDT
Updated: Thursday, 6 September 2007 10:34 PM PDT
Spying in/on America by Homeland Security
Mood:  smelly
Now Playing: Spy Satellites Turned on the U.S.
Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS

I SPY THE USA - SPYING

Dems Call for Moratorium on Program, Expressing Privacy and Legal Concerns

By JASON RYAN

Sept. 6, 2007 —

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3567635&page=1

Traditionally, powerful spy satellites have been used to search for strategic threats overseas ranging from nuclear weapons to terrorist training camps.

But now the Department of Homeland Security has developed a new office to use the satellites to secure U.S. borders and protect the country from natural disasters.

Department of Homeland Security officials testified Thursday before the House Homeland Security Committee about the program and faced extensive criticism about the privacy and civil liberty concerns of the new office, called the National Applications Office.

The purpose of the National Applications Office is to provide the Department of Homeland Security and civil, state and local emergency planners with imagery and data from satellites run by the National Reconnaissance Office and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency.

Homeland Security Chief Intelligence Officer Charlie Allen said overhead imagery was used extensively after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005, and has been used by the Secret Service for security preparations for events such as the Super Bowl.

"Some Homeland Security and law enforcement users also in the past routinely accessed imagery and other technical intelligence directly from the intelligence community, especially in response to national disasters such as hurricanes and forest fires," Allen said.

Committee members expressed concern about abuse of the satellite imagery, charging that Homeland Security had not informed the oversight committee about the program.

"What's most disturbing is learning about it from The Wall Street Journal," said Committee Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.

The lawmakers also expressed concern about using military capabilities for U.S. law enforcement and Homeland Security operations, potentially a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, which bars the military from serving as a law enforcement body within the United States, except where specifically authorized by Congress or the Constitution.

In written testimony, Dan Sutherland, the Homeland Security officer for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, assured the committee, "We will assist the NAO by keeping a watchful eye on several key civil liberties issues."

Department of Homeland Security officials said that the National Applications Office would review requests from agencies such as the FBI and the border patrol for the imagery.

"We will not be able to penetrate buildings & there could be some infrared capabilities," Allen said.

Committee members said that in addition to not being informed about the National Applications Office program, they had not yet been provided with documents defining the limits and legal guidance about the program.

Late Thursday, top Democrats on the committee sent a letter to Homeland Security saying, "We are so concerned that, as the department's authorizing committee, we are calling for a moratorium on the program."

Homeland Security Committee Chairman Thompson, along with subcommittee chairs Reps. Jane Harman, D-Calif., and Chris Carney, D-Pa., also wrote, "Today's testimony made clear that there is effectively no legal framework governing the domestic use of satellite imagery for the various purposes envisioned by the department. & The use of geospatial information from military intelligence satellites may turn out to be a valuable tool in protecting the homeland."

The committee members have asked that Homeland Security provide the committee with legal documents and the standard operating procedures for the program before they consider the issue further.

Referring to the recent controversy over the potential abuse of the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping program, Rep. Harman said at Thursday's hearing that the Bush administration "has been making security policy in the executive branch without full regard for the laws that Congress has passed."

Allen said the National Applications Office would operate "in accordance with the laws."

Although Homeland Security had notified the appropriations committee of the program, Allen apologized to the members of the Homeland Security Committee for not being more forward with them.

"You briefed the appropriators, not the authorizers," Thompson charged.

 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 6:21 PM PDT
Solar Technology is steadly growing
Mood:  energetic
Now Playing: Looks Like Solar is Here to Stay
Topic: TECHNOLOGY

September 6, 2007

http://www.circuitnet.com/articles/article_42767.shtml

Looks Like Solar is Here to Stay

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Steve DeCollibus, Managing Editor, Circuitnet

Today is the third day of the 22nd solar Energy Conference and Exhibition in Milan Italy.

The long history of the show, and the slow growth and adoption of photovoltaic technology in many ways defies the typical technology development cycles that we deal with in the electronics industry. What is a key take away from this show is that this is no longer an early adopter's game, but is a race for product leadership and for the technology that will win that race. The attitude and energy of the participants at this conference is extremely positive and it is clear that solar energy is a primary choice for alternate energy and will continue to be so for a very long time.

Many electronics equipment and materials companies have kept a hand in the photovoltaic manufacturing process. DEK, BTU, USI, Indium, Rohm and Haas, Applied Materials,Umicore, Cookson Electronics, Centrotherm, ASYS and many others have been quietly participating. Many of these companies started with thick film processes over 40 years ago and have continued to support both manufacturing companies and development labs with their products as they have moved into the more refined thin film processes and applications that are critical steps in creating solar cells.

One of the first people we caught up with at the show was Stuart Erickson, President of Ultrasonic Systems, Inc. He was in Milan to participate in the launch of the new BTU doping machine which was developed in conjunction with USI for high volume production of PV wafers. We asked him what he thought was the connection between what USI does in the electronics manufacturing space and what they will do in alternative energy.

"We are in the electronics industry through our activities in SMT, which include applying flux to circuit boards as part of the wave soldering process, we also apply conformal coatings to circuit boards and we apply photo resists & fluxes for the semiconductor packaging industry.

USI's specialty is applying extremely uniform coatings to flat surfaces. We do this using ultrasonic technology to generate a spray that is then shaped by directed air streams to accurately shape that spray. We have a lot of flexibility as to what we can do with the technology. We also have equipment available to do stand alone applications, to apply different materials and to develop solutions for specific customer needs.

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Stuart Erickson, President of USI

We are an ideal solution for the creation of photo voltaic cells and fuel cells. Not only are we supporting the BTU process by applying phosphoric acid as a doping material for wafers as part of their diffusion process, we also have equipment that is applying aluminum for photo voltaic metallization process and equipment that is creating electrodes for fuel cells by applying catalysts and solvents. We are excited about the alternative energy opportunities that we are looking at, and are moving aggressively to participate in this sector".

David Preische, Director of Sales for Metals and Chemicals at Indium described their participation in photo voltaic cell manufacturing as an outgrowth of their metals and chemistry business, a business that has been in operation for quite a while beside Indium's Electronics Assembly Solder business unit.

He described Indium's involvement with the emerging solar market this way, "The Metals and Chemicals group has been involved in a number of different market spaces, including Solar. With the advent of the CIGS (copper, indium, gallium and diselenide) process, photovoltaic solutions have become a lot more interesting to us. Gallium has been a strategic part of our business for decades. With the CIGS technology Gallium has become even more important to us as far as supplying the growing number of CIGS based customers. At the end of the day our core competency is the sourcing of Indium, and we have extended that to include the sourcing of materials like gallium and copper."

"We are a materials resource to the solar market and support it the same way we support the SMT and Semiconductor packaging markets. Within the CIGS and silicon photovoltaic processes there is also a need for solder. Indium's selling proposition for customers involved in these processes is that not only can we supply what you need for the CIGS process, we can also help with back end processes that use solder and metallization pastes.

Darren Brown, Alternative Energy Business Development Manager at DEK shared a few observations with us regarding DEK's history in the solar market. "Solar process has been in development for the last 25 years, DEK has been making printing machines for over 40 years. We became involved in the development of photovoltaic process 25 years ago, and have really never been removed from it. The solar market has been handled up to now by our DEKJ division in Japan. About twelve months ago a decision was made to expand our business.

The SMT business is growing organically a few percentage points a year. We were looking to make a step change in the business and alternative energy was a key market that we looked at and that's where I have gotten involved. More specifically the solar cell and fuel cell sectors of alternative energy. The way the solar cell market is growing at the moment has indicated that the step change we are looking for may come from this market. The potential to upsize our business with Solar Energy appears to be quite dramatic over the next few years."

Darren went on to comment about the show itself, "The first thing that struck me as I walked into the show was its size. I expected it to be big but it was a magnitude larger than I was expecting. The energy of everybody walking around is very up beat and positive. Everybody we have spoken to is expecting to expand in the next two or three quarters."

In closing I would say the era of Alternative Energy is upon us, it is about to sneak into our lives as new technology often does, and it will make a huge difference in the way we live our lives. As an industry that runs by controlling the way electrons pass through conductive materials we would do well to consider the positive impact this will have on our business.

Steve DeCollibus, Managing Editor
Circuitnet

Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:05 AM PDT
Wednesday, 5 September 2007
How to Hide an Airport durring World War II
Mood:  chillin'
Now Playing: Under The Fake House - "Tarp" is Lockheed Aircraft Factory
Topic: WAR

We've heard of stealth airplanes, but never a stealth airplane factory. What you're seeing above is a photo, circa World War II, of a Lockheed aircraft factory in Burbank, California. The US Army Corps of Engineers was given the task of hiding it--the whole darn thing--from air visibility, so Japanese bombers coming off the Pacific wouldn't spot it.

How did they pull it off? Click here to see how they disguised the entire factory as a suburb by wrapping it in camouflage netting, prop houses, and what has to be the largest trompe l'oeil ever made. It's Christo meets Carpaccio...meets G.I. Joe.

 

BEFORE

AFTER


 

 

 

 

+++ The pictures and article I found here +++

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/an_early_green.php

 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 7:06 PM PDT
Monday, 27 August 2007
Flying Robots
Mood:  bright
Now Playing: New Technology for Environmental Use ?
Topic: TECHNOLOGY

BEIJING

(Reuters news)

 

 http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyid=2007-08-26T105120Z_01_PEK274110_RTRUKOC_0_US-CHINA-ROBOTS.xml

A robot that can fly "like a mini-helicopter" and a second that can glide across ice will aid Chinese scientists during an Antarctic expedition slated for October, Xinhua news agency reported on Sunday.

The airborne robot can fly for an hour at speeds of 50 to 100 kilometers (30 to 60 miles) an hour and will be equipped with a camera and an infrared radiometer for observing ice on the sea.

The second robot can slide across ice crevasses and snowy slopes, the report said.

"The use of robots can reduce the risks and costs in scientific research," Xinhua quoted Qin Weijia, of the Polar Research Institute of China, as saying. "No matter how bad the weather is, they can still work normally."

The 200-strong expedition team will set up seismic stations in Antarctica to measure tremors and tectonic movements on the continent, the report said.


Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:53 AM PDT
Tuesday, 21 August 2007
Leave No Marks
Mood:  irritated
Now Playing: Bush creates loopholes allowing TORTURE in the name of USA
Topic: TORTURE

 

Leave No Marks:

"Enhanced" Interrogation Techniques and the Risk of Criminality

A new report issued by Human Rights First and Physicians for Human Rights provides the first comprehensive look at the legality of 10 so-called “enhanced” interrogation techniques in light of the medical evidence on their mental and physical impact.  Many of these techniques are widely reported to have been authorized for use by the CIA. 

 

On July 20, the President issued an Executive Order on the CIA interrogation program that fails to prohibit these techniques.  The report finds that each of these techniques, including mock-drowning, sexual humiliation, severe isolation and sensory bombardment are prohibited by U.S. law and could subject U.S. officials who authorize or use them to criminal prosecution.

 

Press Release

 

 

Executive Summary

 

 

Full report (PDF)

 

 Recommendations

 

 

Posted by Joe Anybody at 5:35 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 5:41 PM PDT
Monday, 20 August 2007
GRASSROOTS MEDIA CAMP
Mood:  celebratory
Now Playing: You ..... B the MEDIA
Topic: MEDIA

Free workshops

 

 

"learn media skills"

 

Is coming to Portland this weekend

 


 

I am participating in a Grassroots Media Camp this weekend in Portland Oregon

It will be all weekend with lots of cool “media type of stuff going on”

 

My workshop is going to be titled “how to upload a video to YouTube using a PC”

I have been preparing (slightly worrying, since this is a first time thing for me to do)

I do feel confidant that I can do this in a manner that will be understandable to the class, so I guess its just a little nerve racking due to the responsibility end of it all.

 

I have made just about 100 short video that are now on the Internet.

Most are on YouTube ….. about 25 on Google…… and then some other sites I have a few as well (My Space, Metacafe, etc)

 

The grassroots Media camp will be held at sites around Portland, my class is Saturday morning around 10am

 

The link on the Internet for the Media Workshops is here:

 

http://www.portlandmediacamp.blogspot.com/

 

The phone number to register or to assist in the workshops is here:

 

503-236-7916

 

Call now spaces are running out!

 

I posted a announcement on Portland Indy Media here:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/363741.shtml

 

But all it really shows is that I made a short YouTube video of the “Camp Flyer”

 

You can see that 2 min video I made right here

(of course it is on YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IfTo4llXWE

 

I have been hanging up flyers all over town, and going to meetings with the organizers.

I have a “training for facilitators” class to take tomorrow evening after work

 

The weekend camp/event is going to have Music on Friday night, a dinner on Sat evening, and a special movie screening on Sunday ….plus more stuff that I don’t even know about

 

More info is coming out every day (stay tuned - check their website)

 

Join with me

Join with the Media Camp

 

You B the Media …… come and learn some media skills or share yours with others....... "GET ACTIVE"

 

PEACE


Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:14 PM PDT
Updated: Monday, 20 August 2007 1:16 PM PDT
Tuesday, 14 August 2007
Continental Flight 1669Y
Mood:  irritated
Now Playing: I am Outraged about this type of Treatment on Continental Airlines
Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS

THE PASSENGERS ON CONTINENTAL FLIGHT 1669Y WERE GUARDED BY AN ATTACK DOG

August 13, 2007 8:54 AM

BALTIMORE SUN reporter Meredith Cohn says:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicsasusual/2007/08/the-passengers-.html

Continental Flight 1669Y from Venezuela to Newark. N.J. was diverted to Baltimore Washington International Thurgood Marshall airport on JULY 29th due to stormy weather. But according to 72 of the 120 passengers aboard, the weather inside the plane which sat on the runway at BWI from 2pm until 6:30pm, was a lot less pleasant than anything outside the aircraft.

There was NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO TOILET PAPER, and reporter Cohn says when the passengers who had spent "12 hours on a plane for a scheduled four-hour flight began clapping in protest, A FLIGHT ATTENDANT THREATENED ARREST AND POLICE WERE CALLED ON BOARD." In a letter to CONTINENTAL, passengers wrote "IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO NOT TREAT US WITH ANY DECENCY OR RESPECT AS CUSTOMERS OR HUMAN BEINGS, WE WERE NOW BEING TREATED AS CRIMINALS." The article says once inside the terminal the passengers claim they were yelled at, told to stay close to the wall and guarded by "OVERZEALOUS OFFICERS WITH AN ATTACK DOG."

The angry passengers have become among the newest members of the COALITION FOR AIRLINE PASSENGERS' BILL OF RIGHTS, a lobbying group started by Kate Hanna, herself an angry passenger, who wants CONGRESS to among many other things force the airlines to limit the length of time their passengers can sit on a stranded plane before being taken back to the airport terminal.


Posted by Joe Anybody at 4:10 PM PDT
Tuesday, 7 August 2007
Stupid unforgivable mistakes regarding Immigration
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: Hate Laws mistake wrong man (US citizen) and he is "deport him to Mexico"
Topic: FAILURE by the GOVERNMENT

U.S. citizen wrongly deported

to Mexico three months ago

has been found


 

Associated Press - August 7, 2007 12:54

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=6898147&nav=9qrx

LOS ANGELES (AP) - The U.S. citizen illegally deported from a Los Angeles County jail nearly three months ago has been found.

Pedro Guzman is expected to be reunited with his family today.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California planned an afternoon (1 p.m.) news conference to disclose details.

Guzman was deported to Tijuana on May 11th after immigration officials and jail personnel wrongfully identified him as a Mexican citizen. Guzman was born in Los Angeles. The ACLU went to court June 11th to seek government help in his safe return.


Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:41 AM PDT
Sunday, 5 August 2007
Now when writing overseas - Big brother can read with no warrant
Mood:  mischievious
Now Playing: Whooooops! There it goes....... Hello My, Spying Government
Topic: FAILURE by the GOVERNMENT

"I'm not comfortable suspending the constitution even temporarily," said Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.), a member of the House intelligence committee.

"The countries we detest around the world are the ones that spy on their own people. Usually they say they do it for the sake of public safety and security."

Yell

House Approves

 

Wiretap Measure


White House Bill Boosts

Warrantless Surveillance

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/04/AR2007080401744.html?hpid=moreheadlines

By Ellen Nakashima and Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 5, 2007; A01

 

The Democratic-controlled House last night approved and sent to President Bush for his signature legislation written by his intelligence advisers to enhance their ability to intercept the electronic communications of foreigners without a court order.

The 227 to 183 House vote capped a high-pressure campaign by the White House to change the nation's wiretap law, in which the administration capitalized on Democrats' fears of being branded weak on terrorism and on a general congressional desire to act on the measure before an August recess.

The Senate had passed the legislation Friday night after House Democrats failed to win enough votes to pass a narrower revision of a statute known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The original statute was enacted after the revelation of CIA abuses in the 1970s, and it required judicial oversight for most federal wiretapping conducted in the United States.

Privacy and civil liberties advocates, and many Democratic lawmakers, complained that the Bush administration's revisions of the law could breach constitutional protections against government intrusion. But the administration, aided by Republican congressional leaders, suggested that a failure to approve what intelligence officials sought could expose the country to a greater risk of terrorist attacks.

Democrats facing reelection next year in conservative districts helped propel the bill to a quick approval. Adding to the pressures they felt were recent intelligence reports about threatening new al-Qaeda activity in Pakistan and the disclosure by House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) of a secret court ruling earlier this year that complicated the wiretapping of purely foreign communications that happen to pass through a communications node on U.S. soil.

The bill would give the National Security Agency the right to collect such communications in the future without a warrant. But it goes further than that: It also would allow the interception and recording of electronic communications involving, at least in part, people "reasonably believed to be outside the United States" without a court's order or oversight.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto emphasized that the bill is not meant to increase eavesdropping on Americans or "to affect in any way the legitimate privacy rights" of U.S. citizens. Data related to Americans in communications with foreigners who are the targets of a U.S. terrorism investigation could be monitored only if intelligence officials have a reasonable expectation of learning information relevant to that probe, a senior U.S. official said.

"There are a lot of people who felt we had to pass something," said one angry Democratic lawmaker who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of caucus discussions. "It was tantamount to being railroaded."

In a sole substantial concession to Democrats, the administration agreed to a provision allowing the legislation to be reconsidered in six months.

Some House Democrats were still upset by what they saw as a deliberate scuttling by the White House of negotiations on a compromise bill. On Thursday, Democratic leaders reached what they believed was a deal with the government's chief intelligence official, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, only to be presented with a new list of conditions at the last minute. The White House and McConnell have denied that a deal had been reached.

"I think the White House didn't want to take 'yes' for an answer from the Democrats," said Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), an intelligence committee member.

The administration said that its bill is aimed at bringing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 into step with advances in technology, primarily by restoring the government's power to gather without a warrant foreign intelligence on targets located overseas.

Because the law has not kept up with advances in telecommunications, McConnell said in congressional testimony, the government "is significantly burdened in capturing overseas communications of foreign terrorists planning to conduct attacks inside the United States."

Civil liberties and privacy advocates and a majority of Democrats said the bill could allow the monitoring of virtually any calls, e-mails or other communications going overseas that originate in the United States, without a court order, if the government deems the recipient to be the target of a U.S. probe.

Last night, several Democrats said the bill would undermine the Fourth Amendment. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said lawmakers were being "stampeded by fearmongering and deception" into voting for the bill. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) warned that the bill would lead to "potential unprecedented abuse of innocent Americans' privacy."

Republicans and administration officials argued to the contrary that the distinctions in the present law -- between calls inside and outside the country -- are outmoded in an age of cellphones that work on multiple continents. What intelligence officials seek, a White House official said in an interview yesterday, is the ability to "surveil a target wherever the call [or other communication involving that target] comes from," and that the new legislation would provide that.

In place of a court's approval -- which intelligence officials worried might come too slowly -- the NSA would institute a system of internal bureaucratic controls.

A senior intelligence official said that in cases in which an overseas target is communicating with people in the United States not relevant to an investigation, their names are "minimized," or stripped from the transcript, before it is disseminated. "You won't see data mining in there," the official said. "You won't see vast drift net surveillance of Americans. . . . What we do not do is target people in the United States without a warrant."

Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Tex.), chairman of the House intelligence committee, said that the Democrats would introduce legislation on surveillance in the fall and would conduct oversight of the administration's surveillance program.

A narrower Democratic alternative, which Democrats said they crafted partly in response to McConnell's concerns, won majority support but nonetheless failed because it did not collect the necessary two-thirds vote Friday night in the House. It failed after an emotional debate in which Republicans charged Democrats with being soft on terrorism and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Republicans of not caring "about the truth."

Under the administration's version of the bill, the director of national intelligence and the attorney general can authorize the surveillance of all communications involving foreign targets. Oversight by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, composed of federal judges whose deliberations are secret, would be limited to examining whether the government's guidelines for targeting overseas suspects are appropriate. The court would not authorize the surveillance.

The bill's six-month sunset clause did not assuage some critics.

"I'm not comfortable suspending the constitution even temporarily," said Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.), a member of the House intelligence committee. "The countries we detest around the world are the ones that spy on their own people. Usually they say they do it for the sake of public safety and security."


Posted by Joe Anybody at 2:01 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 5 August 2007 2:08 PM PDT

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