Zebra 3 Report by Joe Anybody
Monday, 17 July 2006
Two Sides - Face to Face
Mood:  surprised
Now Playing: A Line Of Seperation
Topic: WAR

Get right up close to this borderline with CNN's Zain Verjee.

Get a closeup view of the tough-guy poses of North and South Korea in the demilitarized zone

Check out this BORDER

Watch this short 3 min video of the fine line between

The North and The South

Once you get past the comercial this link will take you to the CNN video

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598&rn=49750&cl=607902&ch=49799&src=


Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:07 PM PDT
Updated: Monday, 17 July 2006 10:16 PM PDT
Saturday, 15 July 2006
Zebera 3 Report Brings Good News From Congress
Mood:  party time!
Now Playing: The Right To Keep Your Gun Durring A Disaster Is Approved
Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS

 

Well My Faithful Z3 Readers some days you Will See Good News In This Here Report. The issue of this passing the Senate/House Committee, latter in the year will still need to be approved. But today I am proud and very happy to share with all you this email that I received this morning

Here it is for you to relish in .......Enjoy!

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Fairfax, VA - On July 13, the United States Senate overwhelmingly passed (84-16) an amendment (#4615) to the Homeland Security appropriations bill (H.R. 5441). 

This amendment -- sponsored by Senator David Vitter (R-LA) -- prohibits the use of funds appropriated under HR 5441 for the confiscation of lawfully possessed firearms during an emergency or major disaster.Commenting on the passage of the amendment, NRA-ILA Executive Director and chief lobbyist Chris W. Cox said, "After Hurricane Katrina, the New Orleans Police Superintendent issued orders to confiscate firearms from all citizens, allegedly under a state emergency powers law. With that one order, he stripped the one means of self-protection innocent citizens had during a time of widespread civil disorder. This legislation guarantees that will never happen again." Various reports indicate that military and law enforcement agencies from the federal government and several states confiscated guns from law-abiding New Orleans residents. The Vitter Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to seize firearms or restrict firearms possession, except in the circumstances allowed by current federal or state law. Convicted felons and other "prohibited persons" are not protected under this legislation and it does not effect law enforcement operations outside of disaster relief situations."In passing this legislation, the United States Senate acted to protect the self-defense rights of citizens when those rights are most vital. There was no 9-1-1 or police to rely on while looters and rapists and thugs ran rampant and honest citizens were left to their own devices to protect themselves, their families and their neighbors. I want to thank Senator Vitter for introducing this amendment and all the Senators who supported it." In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and the resulting gun confiscations, NRA filed suit in federal court and won a temporary restraining order ending all the illegal gun confiscations. After the City of New Orleans failed to comply with the court’s ruling, NRA filed a motion of contempt that included an order that all seized firearms be returned to their rightful owners. Due to NRA’s leadership, emergency powers legislation prohibiting government officials from restricting the rights of law-abiding gun owners during declared states of emergency passed in 10 states during the 2006 legislative session, including Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, Alaska, Idaho, Kentucky, New Hampshire, and Oklahoma.

While the passage of the Vitter Amendment in the U.S. Senate represents an important victory for America’s law-abiding gun owners, the job is not yet finished. It is vital that this provision be included in the final version of the bill that emerges from the House and Senate conference committee later this year. 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:04 PM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 15 July 2006 12:08 PM PDT
This Land Is Your Land - This Land Is Our Land
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: A short note from Graham Nash And A Music Video on Immigration
Topic: IMMIGRATION

IMMIGRATION 

IMMIGRATION MAN



Video:

quicktime::

 http://neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwvideos/immigrationman_qt-hi.html

 windows::

http://neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwvideos/immigrationman_wm-hi.html 

by Graham Nash, LWW Today
So…. In 1970, there I was at the airport in Vancouver…waiting with the rest of the band to get back into the United States… waiting to go to San Francisco. We'd just done a wonderful show and I was anxious to get back home..
    At the Immigration desk the man was watching me with a look in his eye that meant trouble…..Every one else was let through with a minimum of fuss… then came my turn.
    Now I don't know if Canadian Immigration people have a thing about Englishmen but this guy wasn't about to let me in without a great deal of scrutiny. What I'd done to deserve this ‘special' treatment I don't know but it was taking a long, long time to process me…
    The silly thing was I was being asked for my autograph constantly by people who knew who I was yet the guy, who was watching all this was still giving me a hard time. In 1970 I was, and still am, a hippy and I looked the part. Maybe this was why I was being treated differently.. Frankly this infuriated me.
    Now, I don't know about you, but I don't take rejection well… quite frankly I was not at all happy about this… I was watching the rest of the guys walking down the corridor and I wasn't with them…
    When something affects me like this I have to do something about it and the way I do it is to write..
    We are and have always been a country populated by immigrants. They, without question, helped to build and make this country what it is today.
    On the plane my fury changed into words and by the time I was home this song was almost finished…
    I wrote it in the fly leaf of the book I was reading, a Robert Heinlein book, The Silver Locusts. I have it to this day to remind me of that moment…. The moment that Immigration Man was created.


Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:38 AM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 3 March 2007 5:16 PM PST
Friday, 14 July 2006
USA TODAY
Mood:  sharp
Now Playing: LIVING WITH WAR - ALL WAR - ALL THE TIME
Topic: WAR

 

EVERYDAY LIVING WITH WAR AND LIES

EVERYDAY CIVILIANS ARE KILLED BY OUR MILITARY

EVERYDAY OUR OWN KIDS IN UNIFORMS ARE DIEING

EVERYDAY OUR NEOCON LEADERS LIE AND SELL US FEAR (*(What Barry Says: http://www.knife-party.net/flash/barry.html)*)

EVERYDAY THE UNITED STATES WAGES WAR AND TERROR

EVERYDAY I PUKE ON THE IMPERIALISM NEWS AS TRUTH VANISHES

EVERYDAY I CRY FOR A COUNTRY THAT ROLLED OVER & GAVE UP THEIR:

FREEDOM, ETHICS, MORALS, CIVIL LIBERTIES, INTEGRITY, AND HONOR

EVERYDAY I HOPE THE MASSES WILL RISE UP

-~ FOR IT TRULY IS "WE THE PEOPLE" THAT RULE THIS LAND ~

~ WHICH WE PROUDLY STOLE FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS ~

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THE FOLLOW ANTI WAR VIDEOS ARE EXCELLENT

MORE VIDEOS BELOW

-Courtesy of the war-

http://neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwvideospage.html 

Click link below and find this picture, then click on it In a minute you will of downloaded a snappy video http://www.thepartyparty.com/thepartyparty.com/Podcast/91EFC15C-29A7-495E-A5AF-306423A5AD19.html

All the video's found by Ben Waiting were from Neil Youngs Website

http://neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html


Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:15 PM PDT
Updated: Friday, 14 July 2006 1:18 PM PDT
Thursday, 13 July 2006
WHAT ON EARTH IS HAPPENING AT SIX NATIONS?
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT THE NEWS WONT TELL YOU
Topic: NATIVE AMERICANS

mY gOd

 

**** RECENT UPDATES ADDED AT VERY BOTTOM OF THIS POST ****

 

"IF THEY CAN DO THIS TO US

THEY CAN DO IT TO YOU"

(quote by Robin Williams of the Six Nations Tribe)

Z3 readers, WATCH THIS QUICK 3 MIN VIDEO AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT -->

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8568447257874665405

What is going on up here in Canada?

I am just starting to find out about this blockade up at Six Nations.

From the few films that [I will put links to at the bottom of this post] I have been watching just this morning I can see what seems to be a road block by the Six Nation tribe to stop a possible land development by what appears to me as a theft of their land (duhhh we never take land from Natives) anyway this is all my interpretations and not very factual...but it looks like on and off  blockades by the OPP (Ontario Police Provision) (I think?) which have installed their own blockade to prevent the two sides from getting to close,

(it seems) -->

my facts on this... seem to come from dated around April 2006 information

Now in this film here -->  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4688726343360664195  I see that the town of Caledonia is getting pissed about the blockade on their land and want it removed ...most of these asshole protesters (yep they are assholes and racists) are new to the area and have forgotten or never had a clue, who’s land it was .....the Native blockade was to stop land development on Native Lands........The Indians are being peaceful. The townsfolk are loud and obnoxious IN GENERAL ....the OPP blockade is not needed and should be removed ...as I heard in a different video (I included its link at bottom too) most of the reason for the OPP block can be blamed on the HOT HEADS who were causing trouble.

I watced this one clip from Braveheart.com that had my heart racing and my soul crying for love and peace ....this absolutly assinine group of jerks from the town, taunt and throw rocks at the Six Nations Native Blockade at night and it takes the police to remove these rascist  

WOW*

  "I am discusted, This clip below is haunting and worth watching" says Ben Waiting                                  

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2062107048597866513 

Guess what Z3 Readers?

This has been going on for months and months!

I need to research more on this!

I Joe Anybody would love any information you want to share. To me I see this as more theft, control, and stealing, from the true landowners of North America. And these Natives I believe will stand till their death...and I do not even know them. What I Do Know Is the ever prevailing gut feeling that a real man will be called in these times to stand up and die for his country and his family and his rights to be a free man. And by gOd today on some of the last few Native Canadian and Aboriginal lands a Battle Line is drawn in the dirt. I say with full belief that the reason are as real as ever and the death of might warriors spirits are with them at these very moments in the air ....... inspiring them to stand tall, proud and peaceful, and prepared to die for what is right

I wonder who started this?

I wonder how it will end?

Funny how this isn't in the Corporate news huh? Of course how would I know I don’t listen to Faux news or any of the Corporate Military Supporting Stations, you know ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX oh i said FAUX already!!! all those "embedded HAHA" White House Approved stations ...so I really don’t know if this is in the news these days anyway to be truthful......But I am willing to bet you it isn’t

I got to do some research on the current situation, while I have the time.......


 

HERE ARE THE VIDEO LINKS:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030848900718239420 Union Support for the Natives hear how the OPP attack and arrest 16 Natives and why the labor movement supports the Native People.Very Informed Speaker named Ralph. 11min video

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8888177271521138765 4min interview with teenage girl from the city who talks about both sides and the issue of moving back the roadblock

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6543469444369226272  this local guy tells his view of the road being opened on may 22 06 interesting perspective and a good few stories he points to the Native side as causing trouble...notice as he talks about this and how he points out no leadership or explaining to the masses ..... 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9179957702253903930 lady who has lived by the SixNations for 20 years givers her opinion

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=597830631857946049 Interview with locals

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-680876537289973000&q=Six+Nations May 22 video of lots of young kids trying to get past a fence and lots of yelling at Police....police talk with kids at chain-fence line......lots of HATE in this town ...kids yell at the cops to "let the brawl go down"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8612648908171635719&q=Six+Nations+Protest 2 min video about the lights at night...lots of yelling...lots of people at blockade(townsfolk)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3107072711881835098&q=Six+Nations+Protest 700 hundred Non-Natives show off their asshole backwoods anger RACISM and Hatered (sick)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-851267503896821826 then there is this white guy attitude and what a jerk he is! This Guy wants ACTION...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=935411587984125276 Mike D tells of the Planned Nighttime Police Attack in a 5min video ....he tells of tazers and automatic machine guns and false arrests and chasing people in cars etc and how the Natives take back the road hours latter ...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6929468833084740757  Tazers Barbs that the Natives were attacked with by the Police Raid Listen to an innocent Native tell how he was shot in back with Tazer

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4514970171512540483&q=Six+Nations  Just video pan of all the crowd at OPP blockade

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5872956111147310589    local kids pissed about roadblocks

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1383728767173261387&q=Six+Nations close look at Six Nation block - not sure what the video guy was wanting exactly but he wals up to the block 30 sec video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5645774187888336768 court and the mayors big mouth 30 minvideo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371182477781007413  after raids by the OPP Six Nations blocks road with dump truks full of gravel

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8395203966257608799    Interview with peaceful spokesman from Six Nations about cops showing up with guns

http://friendsofsixnations.bravehost.com/videos_uncut.html Bravehost.com has some uncut video here

 

June 28 2006 The Six Nations requests meeting with Governor General:

http://www.firstperspective.ca/fp_template.php?path=20060628gg  text-document

 

******UPDATE 7-12-06******

 * UPDATES BELOW *

7-19-06

http://www.eastnorthumberland.com/article.php?id=447

SIX NATIVE PROTESTERS ARRESTED POLICE CROSS THE LINE TO SIX NATIONS NATIVE LAND WITHOUT PERMISSION

Read more on INDY MEDIA here: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341080.shtml         

here:  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/05/339803.shtml

8-11-06

here: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=31800ac1-d4b2-4646-aac6-3316e7958834&k=1997

here: http://www.900chml.com/news/news_local.cfm?cat=7428218912&rem=44773&red=80121823aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=news_local.cfm

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8-14-06

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060814.wcaledoniaATL14/BNStory/National/home

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8-24-06

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1156369813706

two sides start up talks again in spite of previous judge telling the protesting natives to leave the site or no talks would proceed.  Both parties agreed that it (talks) was a positive step forward.

8-27-2006

LABOR DAY ATTACK WARNING ISSUED 

My Portland Indy Media Link here:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/345078.shtml

Mohawk News webpage article *announcement here:

http://www.mohawknationnews.com/news/singlenews.php?en=en&layout=mnn&newsnr=279&backurl=%2Fnews%2Fnews3.php%3Flang%3Den%26layout%3Dmnn%26sortorder%3D0&srcscript=/news/news3.php 

9-9-06

UPDATE

 http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157753411081&call_pageid=1020420665036&col=1112876262536

Empathy and more from

Six Nations on the need to protect kids!

By Brant Bardy, Program Manager, Aboriginal Media, First Nations Technical Institute, Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory, Deseronto
The Hamilton Spectator
(Sep 9, 2006)

Re: 'Police on patrol at Caledonia school' (Sept. 6)

Caledonia residents need not worry about their elementary school-aged children being harmed by the Six Nations. News reports that promote fear-mongering certainly don't help in restoring the peace that many on both sides of the issue are committed to.

Although the Six Nations spokespeople in the land reclamation have made it absolutely consistent and clear that they intend to take the government to task with respect to their treaty rights, (rights which are supposedly protected under the Canadian constitution), to infer the Six Nations pose a threat to the Catholic school children is absolutely ridiculous.

The Six Nations people also have children whom they care for and love. It may be a bit ironic to note that many Six Nations' children were taken from their parents by government force and placed in state- and church-sponsored residential schools where they suffered from acculturation and abuse. This is a matter of historical record. If anyone can empathize with the need for protecting children, it's Six Nations and other indigenous nations of Canada.

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SEPTEMBER 27 2006

Caledonia, Ont. standoff costing $55M: John Tory

Updated Wed. Sep. 27 2006 11:24 PM ET

Canadian Press

TORONTO -- Conservative Leader John Tory said Tuesday the ongoing aboriginal occupation in Caledonia, Ont. has cost taxpayers at least $55 million.

Tory put the figure to Premier Dalton McGuinty in the Ontario legislature, asking him to give a final tally on the cost of the occupation in the town just outside of Hamilton.

Tory didn't provide itemized proof of how he arrived at the $55-million figure but said it takes into account policing costs, the salary of negotiator Jane Stewart and assistance to local businesses.

"I would expect as the chief trustee of taxpayers' money, you would be able to give us some estimate as to how much has been spent on that matter so far,'' Tory said.

McGuinty didn't respond with a total figure, saying the province is intent on reaching an agreement with Six Nations protesters at the negotiating table.

He said he's proud of how his government has handled the standoff, which started in February and has been marred by violent clashes between town residents and aboriginals.

McGuinty wouldn't repeat previous comments where he said it would be "unacceptable'' for the occupation to drag on through the winter but says the government will remain at the negotiating table for "as long as it takes.''

"This particular issue predates Confederation,'' McGuinty said. "It is complex. It is fraught with challenges.''

Tory said the province should exact an agreement from Six Nations protesters, holding them to a "minimum standard of behaviour'' as long as they remain on the land.

Six Nations protesters say they will stay on the site _ bought by the province and being held in trust _ until it is returned to them.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060927/caledonia_standoff_060927/20060927?hub=Canada

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OCT 23 2006

Six Nations to present evidence of land ownership in Caledonia

October 22, 2006 - by Joseph Quesnel

Six Nations officials have said they will present evidence very shortly that will prove they never surrendered land that is in dispute in Caledonia. The evidence will be presented at a public forum in early November, according to one media report.

At a recent public meeting organized by the Caledonia Citizens Alliance, Aboriginal members associated with the Douglas Estates occupation said the Argyle Street South site in question was not surrendered in the 1840s.

Lawyers hired by the federal government, however, also said that they have documents pointing to a surrender of the property. One lawyer indicated that if the evidence provided by the Six Nations is not persuasive, the government will not change its position, which is that the land was legally surrendered in 1844 and can be transferred.

At the meeting, federal negotiators were not able to inform local residents when the negotiations would be over or when the occupation of the site would cease.

http://www.firstperspective.ca/fp_template.php?path=20061022evidence

 

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November 1 2006

Nov. 1, 2006. 06:29 PM


 

Federal and provincial politicians should stop acting like children and focus on ending the nine-month aboriginal occupation in Caledonia, the town’s mayor said today as Ottawa and the province traded shots about who should foot the dispute’s bill.

The day after Indian Affairs Minister Jim Prentice refused to meet with his provincial counterpart to discuss the occupation and its costs, Haldimand County Mayor Marie Trainer said the finger-pointing is exasperating for residents who just want the ordeal to come to an end.

“They are just playing games right now,” Trainer said about the escalating war of words. “We’re in the middle. We’re the ones suffering.”

“I’d like them to stop acting like children. I wish they would quit holding Caledonia residents as hostages. It’s pretty frustrating.”

Six Nations Chief Allen MacNaughton echoed Trainer’s sense of urgency for Prentice and the Ontario government to end their spat.

“It is with great concern that the Hodiyenehsoh find the Crown, in right of Ontario and Canada, engaged in playing politics in the media,” MacNaughton said in a statement.

“We sincerely hope the two levels of government in Canada will be able to work out their differences and return to the negotiating table with renewed determination.”

MacNaughton urged Prentice to become directly involved in talks with Six Nations Confederacy chiefs to reach a settlement in the land dispute.

Although the province purchased the land in question and is negotiating, Premier Dalton McGuinty has increasingly argued land claims are a federal responsibility, and said Tuesday that Ottawa must “step up to the plate.”

That comment prompted Prentice to cancel his meeting with David Ramsay, Ontario’s minister responsible for aboriginal affairs, later that evening.

Prentice said Ontario is solely responsible for paying the costs of occupation — now pegged at $40 million for policing, business compensation and the purchase of the disputed land.

“The Constitution is very clear. Property and civil rights, the administration of justice and policing are all provincial responsibilities,” Prentice said in an interview.

“What’s missing here is the justification for the province to say this is a federal obligation to pay for this. While the federal government has responsibility for Indians, that doesn’t override provincial law.”

Prentice said he’s been working hard to end the “oldest land claim in Canada,” appointing fact finders, negotiators and meeting with key provincial and aboriginal leaders to help sort out the dispute.

“I’m prepared to discuss the issues in a serious way with (the province) any time they choose, but I’m not going to be part of a media circus and political grandstanding about the issue,” he said.

McGuinty responded to the snub by calling the federal Conservative thin-skinned, and said people shouldn’t get into politics if they can’t take criticism. A clearly frustrated McGuinty repeated his demand that Ottawa take a lead role in negotiating an end to the dispute.

“They’ve got to understand, it’s not going to go away,” McGuinty said. “If it’s not Caledonia, it’s going to be land claims issues elsewhere across the country. This is an issue that’s been percolating on the backburner for a long time now.”

People want to see the dispute resolved, McGuinty said.

“They want us to meet,” he said. “And I think they want us to respect each other’s constitutional responsibilities.”

But no new meeting between the two levels of government has been set.

The federal government should start settling smaller side-issues with the Six Nations protesters and establish some goodwill to resolve the larger land claim issue, said Aboriginal Affairs Minister David Ramsay.

“We don’t want to have these disputes,” he said. “We want to get these things settled for the people of Ontario and especially the aboriginal people in that area who — for a couple hundred years — have not had justice.”

Ramsay said he didn’t know how long this dispute would take to resolve but “it should be sooner rather than later.”

In the meantime, Caledonia residents are losing faith.

“They have really lost focus about what this whole thing is about,” Trainer said of the politicians. “They’re forgetting about the people who are suffering every day — their nerves are shot, they’re on tranquilizers, they’re on heart medication. It’s not a good thing.”

McGuinty’s ramped-up rhetoric about Ottawa’s role in the Caledonia dispute is the latest tough talk about how Ontario is getting short-changed under the federal Conservatives.

That Liberal tactic has backfired, critics said. Conservative Leader John Tory said Caledonia residents were looking for progress on the standoff and are seeing “a jousting match instead.”

NDP Leader Howard Hampton said the Liberal government is paralyzed and is falling back on the “tired old politics of blame and squabble.”

Six Nations protesters have occupied the former housing development site in Caledonia since February. Their occupation has been marred by violent clashes with town residents and barricades that cut the town in half.

The aboriginals say they are prepared to stay on the land — which they say was taken illegally from them 200 years ago — until it is returned to them.

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NOVEMBER 13 2006

http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5574

Six Nations occupation in Caledonia digs in heels for winter months

Members of the Six Nations Confederacy of Indigenous People are preparing to continue their ten-month occupation of disputed land this winter, after negotiations with the government reached a new roadblock earlier this month.

The protestors intend on “maintaining a presence on the occupation site through the winter,” said Six Nations spokesperson Hazel Hill.

They began occupying the land bordering the Grand River in southern Ontario last February, to protest the federal government’s sale of what they claimed was their land to a real estate developer. At the beginning of the month, the government announced its position on the ownership dispute: according to the minutes of a set of documents from the 1840s, the Six Nations surrendered the land long ago.

However, negotiations continue, as many Six Nations people deny that the records are valid.

“These are documents made by a discredited agent,” said Lynda Powless, editor of the Turtle Island Newspaper. “The government discredited [Samuel Jarvis, an “Indian Agent”] for...stealing funds and absconding. They are fully aware of this situation.”

Six Nations spokesperson Jaqueline House went further, claiming the documents are forgeries.

“Signatures are in calligraphy, which our chiefs would never use,” she said. “Or else they have Xs on them...and you can see where they started cutting and gluing those on all over the place.”

Hill described the current occupation site as “quiet” as the protesters prepare for colder months and continuing negotiations. The summer months had been more exciting, with international visitors from other indigenous communities showing up in support of the land claim, said Powless.

However, House stressed that the dispute is less about land than about countering the racism and oppression that the Six Nations people continue to face.

“For a long time we blamed ourselves...for losing our culture, our language,” she said. “But it’s not our fault.... Now, we are fighting diplomatically for our dignity. I don’t want my children to grow up hating or being hated.”

The land-claim dispute has been marked by racial tension and violent incidents, including an April police raid on the reclamations site at four in the morning when protestors were sleeping. Both House and Powless said that many of those arrested over the past months, with charges ranging from robbery to attempted manslaughter, are still awaiting trial and have not had bail hearings.

Other violent run-ins have been with media people and neighbouring residents. Powless said that most of the racial tension in Caledonia comes from new residents who have moved to the area from larger cities and “have no clue who their neighbors are,” while House cited media misrepresentations.

“[People] come and make racial slurs and throw rocks all the time,” she said. “If one of our guys throws one back...all of a sudden [people think] the natives are attacking.”

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DECEMBER 15 2006

Ottawa reviewing

Six Nations claim

(Dec 15, 2006)
http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1166136614874&call_pageid=1020420665036&col=1014656511815

The federal Department of Justice is still reviewing a Six Nations claim that it never surrendered land that has been the subject of a 10-month occupation.

The Six Nations Confederacy presented federal officials last month with an 80-page report on its claim for Douglas Creek Estates on Argyle Street South. It was expected Ottawa would file a response yesterday as talks at the main negotiation table resumed, but federal officials have promised to present Six Nations with a formal written response before the next meeting on Jan. 11.

"We take it very seriously and it is being analyzed at the very highest level," federal negotiator Ron Doering said. Ottawa maintains Six Nations surrendered and sold the land in the 1840s, but Six Nations says its members were duped. While Doering said last month Ottawa felt pretty confident with its position, he said it can be altered, "now that we've heard their side of the story."

All sides remain optimistic the dispute can be resolved. "There's building goodwill," said Mohawk Chief Allen MacNaughton. "It takes time."

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Jan.27.2007 09:16:55
CROWN KEEPS FALTERING ON 6 NATIONS CLAIMS

MNN. Jan. 27, 2006. This is Hazel’s update on the goings on at Six Nations:

On Thursday we had the main table meeting as scheduled. If you watch CH TV 11, you'll see that the position of the Crown hasn't changed. They've once again utilized the media as a negotiating tool as if to proclaim something new or great. It's nothing great! It certainly doesn't offer any new evidence of any sale or lease. For that matter, it doesn't even refer to any factual cases of Canadian law. Their document is nothing more than an OPINION! It is not FACT, nor is it the LAW to which we have agreed to for the negotiation process. It is not surprising. It is exactly what we expected. Did anyone really think they were going to make some great announcement and admit that they had in fact stolen our lands, the lease monies, and made up deeds for all the fraudulent land sales and leases throughout the years for all those living within the tract. Not likely!

They will continue with their tactics of using the threat of courts to try and discourage us. What they failed to mention was that within that court system there are numerous cases in which the Department of Justice ('DOJ') has been found WRONG. This includes cases such as Guerin, Sparrow, Badger, and Dalgamuuk. All of these cases deal with indigenous rights.

In a press release earlier today, Chief Allen MacNaughton reminded the world that "Canada is trying to rely on a Department of Justice "legal" opinion, which in reality is a political position on Six Nations land rights." He further says, "The Department of Justice has taken the position, wherever possible, to limit the assertion of rights and claims by indigenous peoples to protect the Canadian public purse."

Well, we too have our own opinion on what the Crown has tabled. We have our own "legal experts" that have helped us to provide points that we tabled with the Crown on the same day. We’d like to share those points with you:

1. Relying upon the position of the Department of Justice is inconsistent with the spirit and intent of the Two Row. The Two Row sets out a Nation-to-Nation relationship. The DOJ is not a Nation.

2. Relying upon the DOJ position requires an assumption that the Canadian legal system is to apply to the resolution of disputes further to the Treaties and the relationship between the Haudenosaunee and the Crown. This is inconsistent and contrary to Two Row which does not allow one party to place itself in the others canoe nor to pull another into its ship.

3. Even IF the position of the DOJ was relevant, it would not be of assistance. DOJ takes the position that Haudenosaunee are 'Indians' or 'First Nations' which we are not.

4. DOJ takes “political” positions not “legal” positions. They have a political agenda to limit, wherever possible, the assertion of rights and claims by 'First Nations' in North America and to protect the public purse. In trying to push this political agenda through the courts, they have been consistently found wrong.

So the LAW which they are obligated to follow, according to our relationship and ancient covenants, IS the Two Row. They have just as much responsibility to it as we do. They have many generations of neglect, manipulation, corruption and genocide to answer to. There is nothing on that Two Row that leaves room for their DOJ opinion. There is nothing on the Two Row that allows them to defend their actions of the past. There is nothing that they can say to absolve themselves for violating the Laws of Creation. They can only begin to right the wrongs, IF they are serious, and continue with the process of re-polishing the covenant chain as we work our way through this peaceful negotiation process.

Does their position worry us? Not one bit. Does our position worry them? What do you think! Do you think the fact that we've had a complete oral history, backed up and supported by written documentation and historical evidence of facts presented to them; against their pathetic position of "we believe the courts would find in our favour", without an ounce of documentation to back it up - it certainly should worry them.

Their action and attitude of tabling this document is like being in a school yard fight when the bully gets busted for his actions. He desperately tries to deflect away from his own actions by pointing fingers at everyone else. He makes an issue of everything else but the issue at hand. They try to deter from the TRUTH. And that's all this is. Another smoke screen.

They need to get honest with their citizens. They know that they have frauded the Onkwehonweh, They know they have frauded the people of Caledonia, as well as the rest the people living in the municipalities, towns and townships along the Grand River. They know they can't continue to try and bully their way through this. This isn't the playground or school yard! They can no longer hide behind their unilateral acts and presumptuous law. If the Crown wants to continue to challenge the Creator by undermining the Law that we are standing in defense of, so be it. They better understand the consequences of such actions. As I've often said, The Eye of the Eagle is Upon You, Govern Yourself Accordingly!

This morning, the Confederacy Chiefs and the Elected Band Council had another meeting together. It was a good start at looking at the issue of governance in our community. By no means do they agree on all things. It was a good beginning. By sitting down and looking at things that they do agree on, brings them another step closer to the Unity that we envision for all the Onkwehonweh. It was like the first step in a process of healing. For generations we have internalized the oppression that has been created by the Crown through its genocidal practices (including the implementation of the Indian Act). We've allowed the divisions that were created as a result of that oppression to perpetuate into the weaknesses and divisions within our community. We've turned on each other and we've blamed each other for not being able to move forward. We should have been directing that energy and dealing with the originators of that oppression.

Today, we ARE dealing with our Oppressors. We are doing so in Unity & Peace. We are doing so in accordance with the Kaierenekowah, [our constitution]. Unlike them, we do so with respect and honour, even toward those who sit across the table from us at negotiations, who, all the while, continue to enforce genocide, through the Indian Act, forcing our people onto the deck of their "ship" in their court house, and by constant interference in our canoe.

If we truly believe in doing what is right, if our heart is sincere, our mind is clear and our intent is what it does for our children and our grandchildren and the generations to come, then we do have a commonality that can move forward. We can speak with one voice for the highest good of all concerned. And that really is all we can ask of each other. It’s that simple.

In Love, Light and Peace,

Hazel
thebasketcase@on.aibn.com
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July 1 2007:

An email update of mine says only this ::

A little more than a year a ago on February 28, 2006, Hadonashonee, Six Nations of the Grand River Territory had to take over their own lands to stop the illegal construction of a housing development (the Douglas Creek Estates), in Kanonhstaton, the protected place. To this day, men and women confront with great courage and dignity, the defense of their territory in harsh climatic conditions and economic pressures on behalf of the government in the talks to recover their land. They are in constant harassment from the police authorities, and the racist population in its surroundings. Despite all the pressures and efforts remove and divide them, Six Nations of the Grand River Territory are more solid and united as ever under the banner of truth, dignity, and solidarity of their own people, and of brotherly peoples that have not been absent from the Reclamation site.

Recently, another front of struggle has arisen from the heart of the Mohawk peoples in Tyendinaga, in defense of their territory and displacement... The taking over of land in their own territory, protest through highway and rail blockades; the different actions of the indigenous peoples have the same cause:the struggle for the defense of their ancient territories, the preservation of their culture, autonomy and the right to decide and influence in their own matters.

That is why we say with much strength: yesterday Kanonhstaton, today Tyendinaga, tomorrow Beyond the Andes. The prophesy of the Eagle and the Condor will yet be realized.


The Women's Coordinating Committee Chile-Canada

email: wccc_98@hotmail.com

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Peace to the Six Nations Protesters ........from joe and ben

 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:45 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 1 July 2007 7:15 PM PDT
Cool Gadget May Prevent Highspeed Police Chases
Mood:  surprised
Now Playing: Catching Criminals Without Car Chases
Topic: ANYBODY * ANYDAY


The next paragraph was found http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/#1520040

Many high-speed police pursuits result in injury or death for the participants and innocent bystanders. StarChase, a Virginia-based company, has developed a technology to eliminate the need for these dangerous car chases. The StarChase system allows the pursuing police officer to fire a tracking projectile into the fleeing vehicle from a launcher, which can be hand-held or mounted on the police car. The vehicle can then be tracked in real time from the dispatch center, and the bad guys can be intercepted without endangering the general public.



Nice huh? But the downside for the jack-booted police is they now cant race after the perp with adrenaline flowing ...and then once they force the car to crash they wont be able to beat the hell out of the driver like they enjoy doing. Watch the po-po's wont even buy this stupid product it could ruin all their fun.

And speaking of car chase did you all see this one? I think it is from LA  It is titled: Cops Chase Mustang

Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:08 AM PDT
Updated: Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:40 AM PDT
Tuesday, 11 July 2006
GOOD NEWS FOR WHALES: COURTS RULE AGAINST NAVY
Mood:  lucky
Now Playing: WHALES GET SONAR RELIEF
Topic: WAR

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING EMAIL I RECEIVED AND NEED TO SHARE WITH ALL MY FRIENDLY READERS

IT IS GOOD NEWS THAT WE LOVE TO GET NOW AND THEN

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Dear NRDC BioGems Defender,

I'm writing to report a big stride in our campaign to protect whales and other marine mammals from mid-frequency naval sonar.

Two weeks ago, NRDC attorneys raced to court to block the U.S. Navy from unleashing a barrage of ear-splitting sonar into the waters off Hawaii as part of a massive military training exercise. Whales exposed to mid-frequency sonar have repeatedly stranded and died on beaches around the world -- but the Navy refused to adopt even common-sense measures during peacetime exercises to help protect marine life from this deadly threat.

In an infuriating attempt to avoid our lawsuit, the Navy took the unprecedented step -- on the eve of the Fourth of July weekend -- of declaring itself exempt from the primary U.S. law that requires measures to protect marine mammals. But the court sided with us and found that the Navy's planned sonar use violated a second key environmental law as well, noting that NRDC had submitted "considerable convincing scientific evidence" of the dangers of sonar to marine life.

The judge prohibited the Navy from going forward with its sonar use as planned and ordered the Navy to sit down with NRDC and decide on a set of protective measures to be put in place during the month-long exercise. In the settlement reached last Friday after days of tough negotiation with our attorneys, the Navy will be required to create a sonar-free buffer zone around the newly established Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Marine National Monument, as well as significantly improve its monitoring of marine mammals during sonar drills and implement other important safeguards.

This is an important victory, but much more needs to be done to protect whales and other marine life from high-intensity sonar, especially in biologically rich waters. As our campaign moves forward, we will continue to depend on your generous support and activism to compel the Navy to limit its use of harmful mid-frequency sonar. I hope you'll go to: https://www.savebiogems.org/whales/donate.asp

right now and make a contribution to support our ongoing legal efforts.

On behalf of our entire legal team, I want to thank you for coming to the defense of marine mammals around the world.

Sincerely,

President, Frances Beinecke

 

Natural Resources Defense Council

http://www.nrdc.org/

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 5:39 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:49 PM PDT
Joe Anybody Finds Media Activist @ The: OREGON COUNTRY FAIR
Mood:  lyrical
Now Playing: Amy Goodman Speaks About The Alternative Media
Topic: MEDIA






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Hello There Fellow Z3 Readers
Well Joe-Anybody is back from the "Fair"
Stress Free
Corporate Free
And Ready to Take on the World of Spin & Deception

At the Oregon Country Fair an average joe anybody listens to Activist Journalist Amy Goodman from the Outrageously Informative website "DEMOCRACY NOW"
Z3 Readers PLEASE WATCH THIS EXCELLENT VIDEO CLIP I JUST FOUND SINCE I RETURNED FROM THE FAIR IT IS TITLED
"INDEPENDENT MEDIA IN A TIME OF WAR"

www.democracynow.com

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You see lucky me, my fellow reader, Amy Goodman was at the fair to speak for a few minutes I used my handy cam-phone to snap the above cheesy quality photo of Amy, amongst those greener than green trees of ole Oregon country, where she spent the next 40 minutes re-interpreting the importance of alternative media news sources. She bragged, and rightly so, about the increase in demand for www.Democracy Now.com all-over the "US and foreign countries" She spoke of the elaborate passing of "the-news-stories" as updated as quickly as possible and then translated into numerous languages ...then ...quickly posted/uploaded onto the Internet...and now lately her web info is hitting Radio and TV ....shows like KBOO, NPR...and PBS are all asking for daily feeds now. Their program is growing. She mentioned a new station in Southern Oregon just starting up to host the program. People are wanting real news, not corporate fed White House-fed Bullshit SPIN
She was excited and Wow! "talk about saying YOU GO GIRL!" this lady was intelligent, and full of activistic & vigor. Pro-Uncensored Media and Pro-Truth for All the People
Hey a real journalist!

She spoke on the need to get the True-Real News Out... to the people…through alternative sources, blogs, newspapers, speakers, etc. She basically painted the True-but-Ugly picture of our LACK-OF-MEDIA that we have today, and the Dogs Of War (my choice of words) that are lying to us through the Media that they now own. Amy said the The Media we the people have lost control over today, are now the lap dogs for the Pentagon and The White House! *insert GO GIRL HERE*

Amy also spoke of the need "to be aware" of what is going on in our news and what we are being told.
I didn’t take notes but she mentioned many of the same rants and concerns that I and Ben Waiting have brought up here in the ZEBRA3 Report and on Joe-Anybody.com
She mentioned lot-O-stuff that my dear hearted and Faithful Z3 readers are already Up-2-date and informed about.

As I told a friend who didn't get to hear Amy speak (but was camping with me at the fair).......I said to him...
"She basically spoke of everything that I "Joe-Anybody" & Readers already know about. In fact, I didn't learn one new thing from her!! But I myself read about this stuff all day long and also while in my sleep and the fact she was out-n-about speaking to a crowd of 200 art loving fair-going open minded people (yes Hippies too, of course!)was good news spreading activism. And all these people were gleaning and being encouraged about alternative media. A chance to get inspired!

Now of course "yes" I am sure there was a dozen or two [or three] that were already inspired activists and fully aware "already" ...but the idea is to...... as any ACTIVIST knows....


"YA Gotta Get The Word Out”.....and that was what Amy was doing. GOOD JOB .....I loved it!

She opened her short lecture with a cute feel-good-Fair-related comment of thanks, saying
"wow! That was the first time I got introduced by a fairy or butterfly" (That said because the girl who introduced her was dressed up in typical Fair Gear of "fairy wings" which you see allot of when you are down here amongst the costumed, the painted, (yes some nakid too) and then the average tye-dye joe anybody who always dresses up as his typically everyday scary self with no shower or hair brush for 5 days...--> *.....RUN) but it WAS cool to see Amy Goodman relaxed in the woods and talking to us all 'to get involved and to be wise to the Spin'
She said she would be wearing her own “fairy wings” latter in the evening as the fair closes to the public at 7pm and the behind the scenes vendors, and fair workers get to play through the night, the rest of us all go to our campgrounds …..mine was a mile away through the woods, I really didn't mind it either. Get your wings Amy……!!!

So back to the story…
As Amy finished her lecture I had to hurry and get to the main stage 10 MINS away to here a favorite band of mine "The Zen Tricksters" But I think the The JGB (Jerry Garcia Band) who played the day before was a better show. As I digress, I wanted to stay and here her answer questions but ahhhhhhh time was short. I noticed that she did address the problems with the Media SINCE Sept 11.....but really gave no hint that the busman and his goons allowed this to happen. Now the guy who spoke Before Amy Goodman at the fair on the stage, which by the way I forgot to tell you was labeled "The Front Porch" And...no it didn’t look like a front porch it just is sort-of-close to the entrance!
...Well this guy speaking, flat out said "the bush administration allowed this 911 attack to Fuckin happen" *you can insert Go Girl for him here!....


Ya he was right all right
...I have been told Amy wont address the issue of the 911Bush-Knew and stays clear of it on her program [shame too]!
HA ...But do you know why?

......because when you grasp the idea that our government allowed this your Life Will Change.....and you will feel SICK

And Hey! who wants to feel sick HuH?
The guy speaking before Amy was charged up...
he also came right out and attacked the Christian philosophy of believing in a higher power (which I disagreed with him on)which for all I can see is that the reason people are doing this today it seems to me is....

...as he was just doing ...I figured it is because MANY MANY Christians get so brain locked into their RELIGION they cant see the glass full of POISON KOOL-AID they are drinking from our Leaders laddle in a “political sense” They have been given them their drink on a daily media spinned bassis
Let me repeat that again.
The MANY MANY Christians get so wrapped and locked into the RELIGIOUS thought process they cant see they are drinking POISON "kool-aid" from the Media, Their Government, and it is Terror Induced Phony Bullshit Manipulations that they 'fall for' or swallow. And/or as even in some cases believe that George Bush is some kind of CHRISTIAN LEADER leading them as a Christian would??? (by the way that is a lie GB is no Christian by far!!) That is way I see allot of attacks on the general Christians attitude come from some onthe Left. They see these non-thinking following Christians believing the spin and helping lead the world down an ingnorant path of kool-aid-drunk sheeple.
I do suspect it comes from this concept ..that the religion is in the way of seeing the …
Truth of Today being FIXED and their Religion keeps them blind in a niave-obediant way the Lies from the Daily Media.
Some quickly blame the Religion or the Christian belief ……I my self think that those victims have drank some of the readyily available "POISON - NEOCON Kool-Aid" and now are suckered in Faith-n-All.



So for the record this guy who was speaking before Amy … who's name is Kevin Danaher and his topic was title
"Local Green Economy and The Triple Bottom Line"
I am going to look him up on the Internet but that will be latter….he sure had a lot of energy too ….A real live 911 Truth Activist at the Oregon Country Fair.
Now thats what I have Ben Waiting for.

I need to find my hair brush
Take a shower
And throw some billis into the shredder
Talk-to-All-You Z3 Readers latter
PEACE

Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:56 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:26 PM PDT
Tuesday, 4 July 2006
Joe Anybody @ The Oregon Country Fair
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: Trip on down to the fair
Topic: ANYBODY * ANYDAY

Well folks its that time of year



So my car is about packed and I head up to the local "cheap gas station" to Fill-er-Up for my 2-1/2 hour journey to Eugene Ore. As the attendant takes my request and starts to put the nozzle into my tank he says .....
"Will that be cash or credit?"

I say "If I pay in cash will that make me a TERRoR Suspect?"
I look him straight in the eye (but with a big smile.)

He nods his head........
from side to side
I think he may of tried to smile?
'He did get a good look at me' as I paid him the 26 dollars and drove off.......
wow! that gas was cheap ...2.79 a gallon.
That was weird.
But thought provoking.
What if that was the way it wassssss?

Credit!! or you could be a "suspect" for using cash, just like on the air planes nowadays!.........

But - not me today,
America....
I was smiling, I had a full tank of gas, new tires and no work for the nexy 10 days in a row......
YaaaBaDaba-Do ..I was on my way to the Country Fair
Off to the grassy fields were Terrorism doesn't exists!
Where the trees hide the city. An escape from Corporate Town USA!
"Going to a country style fair in the woods, happy and carefair~free~as~can~be for 5 days non stop. I can hear the drums of Peace and Love as my car inches towards the vilage where people have been meeting in Peace & Harmony for get this Z3 Reader, ** --> 11,000 YEARS wow! that is going way ...back to the Native Americans who were the first and original in the begining of a long ongoing respecting and enjoying this sacred place and meeting ground "!


As fear is left only in your mind
In a space as large or small as your willing to create for it.
I Joe Anybody USA had no room for it at-all ...NOT TODAY ....as about just then I threw my shoes off and-over--> into the backseat.
This was going to be easy!!!!! Yiiipiiiee!






Click Here for Poster History Of OCF
But to really get you started lets begin at at this next link of picture -->


Here is what you will be missing from a website with SOME neat pictures
Just click the:
THIS HANDY *YOU MISSED THE FAIR* LINK


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Oh! And here is the link to help you get to the FAIR if you decide you want to partake.
http://www.oregoncountryfair.org/

I will write you all when I am back on Monday July 10, 2006

**Thecountryfair isheldthesecond weekendinjulyeachyear**


Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:21 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 2:37 PM PDT
Saturday, 1 July 2006
Remember When The USA Was Honorable?
Mood:  irritated
Now Playing: Torture Hurts
Topic: TORTURE







THE FOLLOWING IS FROM WWW.DEMOCRACYNOW.COM
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READ THE FULL STORY HERE
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AMY GOODMAN: This is former Guantanamo prisoner, Moazzam Begg.

MOAZZAM BEGG: I was held next to Salim Hamdan in Guantanamo for a period of two months and he often told me about how hard they were working together with Charles Swift in trying to obtain his rights. But we all remained skeptical because we felt that it was the United States government, in one sense, trying to feel good about itself in offering these types of laws and telling the detainees that at least you have the ability to defend yourself in this way, which wasn't true at all.

AMY GOODMAN: The Supreme Court ruling was hailed by human rights groups, legal experts, and other former prisoners. In a statement the free British detainee, Shafiq Rasul, who spent two years at Guantanamo without charge said, quote, “This is another step in our collective efforts to see that those we left behind are treated fairly under international law.” President Bush took questions from reporters shortly after the verdict was announced. He was at the White House in a joint news appearance with the Japanese Prime Minister Koizumi.

REPORTER: You’ve said that you wanted to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, but you were waiting for the Supreme Court decision that came out today. Do you intend now to close the Guantanamo Bay quickly? And how do you deal with the suspects that you said were too dangerous to be released or sent home?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Yeah, I -- thank you for the question on a court ruling that literally came out in the midst of my meeting with the prime minister. And so, I haven’t had a chance to fully review the findings of the Supreme Court. I, one, assure you that we take them very seriously. Two, that to the extent that there is latitude to work with the Congress to determine whether or not the military tribunals will be an avenue in which to give people their day in court, we will do so.

The American people need to know that this ruling, as I understand it, won't cause killers to be put out on the street. In other words, there's not a -- it was a drive-by briefing on the way here. I was told that this was not going to be the case. At any rate, we will seriously look at the findings, obviously. And one thing I'm not going to do, though, is I'm not going to jeopardize the safety of the American people. People have got to understand that. I understand we're in a war on terror, that these people were picked up off of a battlefield, and I will protect the people and, at the same time, conform with the findings of the Supreme Court.

REPORTER: Do you think the prison will close?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Well, I haven't had a chance to fully review what the court said, Terry. I wish I had, and I could have given you a better answer. As I say, we take the findings seriously. And, again, as I understand it -- now, please don't hold me to this -- that there is a way forward with military tribunals in working with the United States Congress. As I understand, certain senators have already been out expressing their desire to address what the Supreme Court found, and we will work with the Congress. I want to find a way forward.

In other words, I have told the people that I would like for there to be a way to return people from Guantanamo to their home countries, but some of them -- people need to be tried in our courts. And that's -- the Hamdan decision was the way forward for that part of my statement, and, again, I would like to review the case. And we are. We've got people looking at it right now to determine how we can work with Congress if that's available to solve the problem.

Watch this video --> HERE


Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:22 PM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 1 July 2006 1:27 PM PDT

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