Zebra 3 Report by Joe Anybody
Thursday, 12 November 2020
Broken Rainbow - VIDEO
Now Playing: government-enforced relocation of thousands of Navajo Native Americans

 Broken Rainbow


https://youtu.be/W5z8OgMfXXc (video 109 mins)


1985 documentary film about the government-enforced relocation of thousands of Navajo Native Americans from their ancestral homes in Arizona.

The Navajo were relocated to aid mining speculation in a process that began in the 1970s and continues to this day.

The film is narrated by Martin Sheen. The title song was written by Laura Nyro. Buffy Sainte-Marie ... Translator Voice (voice) Burgess Meredith ... Historical Voices (voice) Won Oscar



Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:23 PM PST
The Shortwave Report 11/06/20 Listen Globally!
Mood:  amorous
Now Playing: World News - Anti War - Independent Media - Shortwave Report
Topic: MEDIA

The Shortwave Report Listen Globally!


A weekly 30 minute review of international news and opinion, recorded from a shortwave radio and the internet. With times, frequencies, and websites for listening at home. 3 files- Highest quality broadcast, regular broadcast, and slow-modem streaming. Radio Deutsche-Welle, Spanish National Radio, NHK Japan, and Radio Havana Cuba.


Dear Radio Friend,

This week's show features stories from Spanish National Radio, NHK Japan, and Radio Deutsche-Welle.
(If you have access to Audioport there is a highest quality version posted up there {33MB}  http://www.audioport.org/index.php?op=producer-info&uid=904&nav=&)

From GERMANY- In Poland protests continue over new abortion restrictions and in Britain the terror threat level has been raised. In Europe Covid cases are increasing rapidly and lockdowns are in place in many countries. China is angry that the US has approved the sale of attack drones to Taiwan. The US election is being followed globally, RDW has spent several days talking about little else. Here is a report on the change in relations between the US and Germany over the past four years.

From SPAIN- Alison Hughes reviews the Spanish press that was published at the start of the US election. El Pais describes the election as a referendum on the global wave of populism. They also ran a piece on climate change, pointing out that another four years of Trump would have irreparable effects on efforts to counter the environmental damage. In El Mundo there was an analysis called "The intellectual legacy of a reality show president," pointing out how global politics have changed since his election. In Publico an opinion piece says that there are no leftist political parties in the US, just two right-wing parties, one ultra-right and one center right.

From JAPAN- A report on how countries across Asia are paying attention to the US election- with reports from Thailand, India, South Korea, and China. The new Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga says the government has no plans to build new nuclear power plants or reactors, while it aims for carbon neutrality by 2050.

From CUBA- The Bolivian president-elect, Luis Arce, has called for the rebuilding of peace and economic stability, rejecting right wing attacks on homes and businesses. Fires in the Amazon rain forest in Brazil surged in October. A super typhoon destroyed some islands in the Philippines, the 18th this year. An investigation by Reveal and the LA Times shows that the Obama and Trump administrations detained tens of thousands of migrant children for longer than previously known. Edward Snowden and his wife are applying for dual US/Russian citizenship. Trump has approved selling the F-22 stealth aircraft to Israel, to make up for selling F-35s to the UAE.

The latest Shortwave Report (November 6) is up at the website  http://www.outfarpress.com/shortwave.shtml in 3 forms-

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:03 PM PST
This Is Now: Bridge to a Better World PODCAST
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: Podcast: This Is Now
Topic: MEDIA


In this edition of This Is Now: Bridge to a Better World-
A look at what unemployment statistics really mean
The president seemingly orders a death squad, and how that relates to the U$ history of imperialism
And finding inspiration and wisdom with our ancestors



Dissenting commentary now available on different platform

"Press**Watch/The News you're not supposed to know" was a long-running (3 decades!) program on KBOO Radio, produced by Theresa Mitchell. Now the headlines and commentary that ran every Thursday morning on the radio is available as a podcast, and the effort is combined with Ani Raven ("Positively Revolting Talk Radio," also a staple on the Boo for many a year.

This week's episode points to the real unemployment numbers, castigates the Feds for their wrist-slap of criminal bank Wells Fargo, and goes into a deeper discussion of the death-squad killing of Michael Reinoehl at the behest of the Orange Mussolini.

Here's the link!  LISTEN


Your comments are welcome; please keep them on-topic and humane.



Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:45 AM PST
Progressives Made Trump’s Defeat Possible. Now It’s Time to Challenge
Mood:  bright
Now Playing: The PeaceWorker article on the future of America - Nov 2020
 The future of America
I'm sharing an interesting article (and a back story) ...that I can wrap my head around and see the exciting message the author is explaining .... (that said at the same time ironically, I'm trying to tune all this political stuff out and just run out to SG)

.... But, none the less this author Norman Solomon, (whom I read his stuff occasionally) ... makes a good point regarding the future of America with our new "Democrat" (aka left) president.

I have not voted for the Dem Party in over 20 years = they never represented my principles, I voted for Joe, this time, to help shift the world in a better direction that it was headed under Trump ...It was very hard for me to do that, but it was a desperate time - I was forced to help "make change"

This article (for me) explains that kind of voting "logic" and what we need to do next (for social / environmental & economic justice issues). By making sure we continue going in the right direction: our grass roots politics, actions and encouragement,  is going to be needed to gain new ground, that we are not silent, but continue to "push" onward for Real Change that our country and the people in it --> NEED

I'm not that active these days .... sharing the info for progressive change is a little step I can take, in a long walk.

The "good fight" (as Ralph Nader used to say) is not over .....
We need to Hunker Down and press for STILL NEEDED ----> REAL Change!

The article comes out of Salem ...I know this editor (Peter Bergel) of this news service: PEACEWORKER.org
In fact, I filmed him protesting 15 years ago in front of the World Trade Center in Portland (at Sen Smiths office) (anti war protest) (--> the cops said! he was arrested because he was blocking the entry doors) My video was used in his court trial and.... ALL CHARGES DROPPED (my video proved he was NOT blocking any doors)

--- LOL damn we beat them at their phony game of intimidation = it was a great win for protesting at Sen Smiths hidden office in the Trade Center (I say hidden cause the building security would not let anti war citizens up to his office to talk w/ their Senator (that is illegal) but they did it anyway and used the security of the World Trade Center as their key stepping stone to prevent Smith from activist without an invite and permission at the front desk (what a punk) to go up to the floor where the Sen was hiding,

That is a bit of history of the editor .... now on to the article by Norman:

Progressives Made Trump’s Defeat Possible. Now It’s Time to Challenge Biden and Other Corporate Democrats.


By Norman Solomon

The evident defeat of Donald Trump would not have been possible without the grassroots activism and hard work of countless progressives. Now, on vital issues — climate, healthcare, income inequality, militarism, the prison-industrial complex, corporate power and so much more — it’s time to engage with the battle that must happen inside the Democratic Party.

The realpolitik rationales for the left to make nice with the incoming Democratic president are bogus. All too many progressives gave the benefit of doubts to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, making it easier for them to service corporate America while leaving working-class Americans in the lurch. Two years later, in 1994 and 2010, Republicans came roaring back and took control of Congress.

From the outset, progressive organizations and individuals (whether they consider themselves to be “activists” or not) should confront Biden and other elected Democrats about profound matters. Officeholders are supposed to work for the public interest. And if they’re serving Wall Street instead of Main Street, we should show that we’re ready, willing and able to “primary” them.

Progressives would be wise to quickly follow up on Biden’s victory with a combative approach toward corporate Democrats. Powerful party leaders have already signaled their intentions to aggressively marginalize progressives.

“Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her top lieutenants,” Politico reports, “had a stark warning for Democrats on Thursday: Swing too far left and they’re all but certain to blow their chances in the Georgia runoff that will determine which party controls the Senate.”

Also on the conference call with congressional Democrats was House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, who reportedly declared that if “we are going to run on Medicare for All, defund the police, socialized medicine, we’re not going to win.”

Such admonitions were predictable and odd, coming from House Democratic leaders who just saw shrinkage of members of their party due to the loss of “moderate” incumbents as well as the losses of avowedly “moderate” and widely heralded Democratic senatorial candidates in Maine, Kentucky, Iowa and elsewhere.

At the core of such conflicts, whether simmering or exploding, is class war. When Pelosi & Co. try to stamp out the genuinely progressive upsurge in congressional ranks that is fueled from the grassroots, they’re “dancing with those who brung them” — corporate elites. It’s an extremely lucrative approach for those who feed out of the troughs of the Democratic National Committee, the Senate and House party campaign committees, the House Majority PAC and many other fat-cat political campaign entities. Consultant contracts and lobbying deals keep flowing, even after Democrats lose quite winnable elections.

Biden almost lost this election. And while the Biden campaign poured in vast financial resources and vague flowery messaging that pandered to white suburban voters, relatively little was focused on those who most made it possible to overcome Trump’s election-night lead — people of color and the young. Constrained by his decades-long political mentality and record, Biden did not energize working-class voters as he lip-sunk populist tunes in unconvincing performances.

That’s the kind of neoliberal approach that Bernie Sanders and so many of his supporters were warning about in 2016 and again this year. Both times there was a huge failure of the Democratic nominee to make a convincing case as an advocate for working people against the forces of wealthy avarice and corporate greed.

In fact, Clinton and Biden reeked of coziness with economic elites throughout their political careers. To many people, Clinton came off as a fake when she tried to sound populist, claiming to represent the little people against corporate giants. And to those who actually knew much about Biden’s political record, his similar claims also were apt to seem phony.

It’s clear from polling that Biden gained a large proportion of his votes due to animosity toward his opponent rather than enthusiasm for Biden. He hasn’t inspired the Democratic base, and his appeal had much more to do with opposing the evils of Trumpism than embracing his own political approach.

More than ever, merely being anti-Trump or anti-Republican isn’t going to move Democrats and the country in the vital directions we need. Without a strong progressive program as a rudder, the Biden presidency will be awash in much the same old rhetorical froth and status-quo positions that have so often caused Democratic incumbents to founder, bringing on GOP electoral triumphs.

In recent months, Biden showed that he knew how to hum the refrains of economic populism when that seemed tactically useful, but he scarcely knew the words and could hardly belt out the melody. His media image as “Lunch Bucket Joe” was a helpful mirage in corporate medialand, but that kind of puffery only went so far. Meanwhile, the Biden strategists decided to coast on the issue of the pandemic, spotlighting Trump’s lethally narcissistic insanity.

But when it came to healthcare — obviously a central concern in people’s lives, especially amid the coronavirus — Biden largely fell back on Obamacare rather than advocating for a genuine guarantee of healthcare as a human right. Likewise, Biden talked a bit about easing the economic burdens on small businesses and families, but it was pretty pallid stuff compared to what’s desperately needed. To a large extent, he surrendered the economic playing field to Trump’s pseudo-populist blather.

Looking ahead, we need vigorous successors to the New Deal of the 1930s and the Great Society programs of the mid-1960s that were asphyxiated, politically and budgetarily, by the Vietnam War. Set aside the phrase if you want to, but we need some type of “democratic socialism” (as Martin Luther King Jr. asserted in the last years of his life).

The ravages of market-based “solutions” are all around us; the public sector has been decimated, and it needs to be revitalized with massive federal spending that goes way beyond occasional “stimulus” packages. The potential exists to create millions of good jobs while seriously addressing the climate catastrophe. If we’re going to get real about ending systemic and massive income inequality, we’re going to have to fight for — and achieve — massive long-term public investments, financed by genuinely progressive taxation and major cuts in the military budget.

With enormous grassroots outreach that only they could credibly accomplish, progressive activists were a crucial part of the de facto united front to defeat Trump. Now it’s time to get on with grassroots organizing to challenge corporate Democrats.

Norman Solomon is the national director of RootsAction.org and the author of many books including War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death. He was a Bernie Sanders delegate from California for the 2020 Democratic National Convention.


Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:17 AM PST
Thursday, 5 November 2020
The Real Thanksgiving - Chandler's version
Mood:  hungry
Now Playing: Chris Chandler's Muse and Whirled Retort November 2020

(copy / paste} from Chris Chandliers World Muse


(This is an encore edition - originally posted
November 28,  2013
VOL XIV issue vii
Oakland, CA)

But this is not the Thanksgiving we celebrate.

Pumpkin Pies, Turkey and Green-Bean Casserole, small children tracing their fingers onto construction paper in order to turn it into a turkey. dressed as Pilgrims and Indians.

Do you know what the language the Indians spoke in 1621 when they first laid eyes on the Pilgrims?


Yes, the Wampanoag had been trading with Europeans for a century. There were, in fact, more native people living in North America that had been to Europe than Europeans that had been to North America! It's true.

Less than ten years after Columbus' voyage the first dozen Native Americans (not that they would have called themselves that) from what we call New England were off visiting Europe and learning European languages. Granted - this was not a sight seeing trip they chose to make like the Pilgrims did. Few would return.

By the 1600s Native slaves were the chief component of America's Gross National Product.

In 1605 the English Captain John Weymouth returned to Europe with a payload of twenty Indians chained in his cargo. Among them was Tisquantum, (The Indian that first approached the staving Pilgrims.) He managed to return to New England as a part of the cargo of Captain John Smith (yes that John Smith) in 1614 on Smith's first visit to America. However, members of his crew had other ideas. Tisquantum was again sold into slavery but freed by Friars in Spain, educated (at least to the ways of Europeans) and brought back as a guide in 1619. He had actually hung out as London as an English speaking freed slave.

But this is not the Thanksgiving we celebrate.

Understand that when the Pilgrims arrived in December of 1620 - which is incase you hadn't noticed - cold in New England. Things were not going well already. Poor piloting had wasted precious time and it was now late in the year. That first winter was not pretty.

The Pilgrims were starving. They spent their first weeks surviving by sending out armed parties who stumbled upon the remains of an Indian village that had been abandoned for the Winter. They broke into homes and stole stashes of food that had been left there. Survival.

If anything the first "Thanksgiving" consisted of an entree of looting. But that is not the one we celebrate.

Even after the Plymouth colony had a good year under her belt, the Pilgrims were still not doing so well. Neither were the Wampanoag. They were in a state of war with the Narraganset and The Massasoit. The Pilgrims had something they could use - and vice versa.

Tisquantum and friends showed up saying, "Ya know you goys look pretty hungry, maybe you should eat some of these pumpkins we raised, and maybe ya should get over that weird religious aversion to Lobster - we go plenty of them running around on the beaches - and while were at it - those guns you got... we could use a few of them... The Pequit they are really starting to piss us off."

Yes, the first thanksgiving was indeed an arms deal. And so began a series of pacts, alliances, allegiances, and affiliations that all seemed to end with Europeans on top.

But this is not the Thanksgiving we celebrate.

I like to think of Thanksgiving as -- well... just that. an almost Pagan ritual where we can celebrate the bounty of this life. Give thanks for all we have, and frankly we do have alot.

My favorite Thanksgiving took place when I was living in Canada. (where they don't celebrate it.)

I was living as a street musician in a tourist town in the early 90s living in a shack in a lumber yard, paying literally a hundred bucks a month Canadian to live there. Things were bleak.

I mean compared to that first Winter spent by the Pilgrims - I had it good, but when viewed through the Rose colored Raybans of today's standards - that little wood burning stove did not work very well. Bad weather in a tourist town meant no money for a big meal. We were hungry.

I know you think Canada is a socialist country and all - so I could have gotten some kind of assistance. But no, I was a Frost Back: an undocumented worker - working below standard wages to entertain the tourist class.

No Thanksgiving for Chandler.

But my friends, a miracle transpired.

The Canadian Postal Service!

Because they don't celebrate Thanksgiving - they deliver the mail on the fourth Thursday in November. My mother timed it perfectly.

She was distraught by the fact that I was living in land with no Thanksgiving so she mailed me a can of turkey meat, a box of stove top stuffing, a jar of cranberry sauce and a can of green beans. Holy Moley!

That was the best thanksgiving meal I ever had!

We do have so much to be thankful for.

and why not be that? Thankful.

That is the Thanksgiving day we celebrate.

Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:32 AM PST
Saturday, 31 October 2020
What Antifa Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Matters
Mood:  sharp
Now Playing: Anarchism and Antifa - Read on the connections
Topic: Anarchism

What Antifa Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Matters


To understand why Antifa has become a popular bogeyman for some public officials, it is critical to understand what the group is, what it isn't, and why it matters.



Reposted here - http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2020/10/439599.shtml


As senior citizen Martin Gugino was lying in his hospital bed, suffering from a subdural hematoma, President Donald Trump took to Twitter to suggest that Gugino "could be an ANTIFA provocateur."

One day earlier, two Buffalo, New York, police officers shoved Gugino, leaving him bleeding from his ear. What led the president to believe that Gugino — a 75-year-old and lifelong peace activist — was a member of Antifa, a highly decentralized movement of anti-racists who seek to combat neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and far-right extremists whom Antifa's followers consider "fascist"?

A week and a half before the incident involving Gugino, in the midst of the protests convulsing the country after the murder of George Floyd, Trump announced on Twitter that "The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."

Meanwhile, U.S. Attorney General William Barr claimed that so-called far-left extremists groups were to blame for the violence at the demonstrations, accusing Antifa of "domestic terrorism" while presenting no evidence. A recent review of those individuals arrested on federal charges shows no links to Antifa. While this finding may change as investigations progress, the lack of an Antifa "terrorism" connection comes as little surprise to terrorism analysts who have been tracking domestic terrorism threats, including neo-Nazi groups such as the Atomwaffen Division and the Rise Above Movement.

So, why are the Trump administration and the attorney general so obsessed with Antifa?

The Antifa label has become a political cudgel wielded by politicians who are more intent on demonizing political opponents and framing terrorism as a partisan issue than on countering the most dangerous groups operating on U.S. soil. After all, Atomwaffen has murdered several American citizens and had its members arrested with bomb-making materials, while Antifa has smashed store windows and engaged in street brawls.

To understand why Antifa has become a popular bogeyman for some public officials, it is critical to understand what the group is, what it isn't, and why it matters.

To do so, we draw on interviews that one of us conducted with a handful of activists who identified themselves as anti-fascists or anarchists, along with studies and documents written by activists and supporters. Given Antifa's atomized, amorphous structure, our respondents' comments should not be interpreted as representing the anti-fascist or anarchist position. In fact, there is no single anti-fascist or anarchist position — a point that was made to us early on by a long-time activist who identifies as an anarchist anti-racist:

One thing I want to be clear on is when I'm speaking it's never from a position, like, "This is the anarchist platform." Anarchism allows for absolute personal freedom ... There's no anarchist spokesperson who's gonna be like, "This is the anarchist platform on this issue," because it's so broad.

What Is Antifa?

Contrary to how it is often portrayed in the media, Antifa — short for anti-fascist — is not a single organization. Rather, it is a loose network of groups and individuals who coordinate their anti-racist activism on an ad hoc basis in different areas both within and outside the United States.

Antifa has no centralized leadership structure or formalized membership. In the United States, some anti-fascist groups share ideas by participating in the Torch Network, which evolved out of the old Anti-Racist Action Network. But, neither the Torch Network nor popular anarchist websites such as It's Going Down and CrimethInc. exert any command and control over local activists. Instead, like-minded supporters coordinate autonomously — typically in small, tight-knit groups — with other activists they know and trust. Internal decision-making is based on group consensus and direct democracy. Activists communicate face to face and through social media and encrypted apps like Signal. These and other operational security practices are meant to protect activists from unwanted attention by the police and white supremacists.

Such secrecy complicates efforts to estimate the size of the Antifa movement in the United States. Just as supporters do not become "card-carrying" members, local groups do not publicize their numbers. In some cities — such as Berkeley, California, and Portland, Oregon — local chapters are active and well organized. Nationally, however, the movement is small and dispersed. According to Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, a historical and comparative study of the movement based on his interviews with 61 anti-fascists in North America and Europe, Antifa has about "five to 15 members" in most American cities where it operates. Given the movement's small size, Bray is skeptical about Antifa's ability to direct the nation-wide protests against police brutality and systemic racism that have erupted across the United States in recent weeks:

If antifa on its own could orchestrate a national campaign of burning down police stations and burning down malls, they would have done it years ago ... They agree with these kinds of actions. But the number of people involved is so small.

Despite the small size of the Antifa movement, its members do not follow a single ideology. Anti-fascists express political beliefs commonly associated with the far-left end of the political spectrum. Such beliefs include different varieties of anarchism, communism, and socialism. Historically, anti-fascism has been associated with the larger anarchist movement. More recently, many key organizers behind the Anti-Racist Action Network and other groups have drawn on anarchist ideas in coordinating their activism. Even today, many anti-fascists follow anarchist principles.

Such overlap makes it difficult to distinguish anarchism from anti-fascism. Yet, they are not identical. One important difference can be found between their views on the state. Anarchists believe that governments throughout the world repress their citizens through authoritarian laws, institutions, and practices. For human beings to be truly free, they maintain, existing governments must be replaced by local, voluntary associations that organize social and economic life through direct democracy and mutual aid.

Many anti-fascists do not share such strong anti-statist views, even if they are deeply skeptical of law enforcement and security agencies. Anti-racists who identify with Antifa would like to see major police reforms, but they do not necessarily wish to abolish all government institutions. Nor do they share anarchists' faith in running contemporary societies and economies entirely through local voluntary associations and networks. These "liberal anti-fascists" want to combat white supremacism using the institutions of democratic states and societies, including progressive political parties and independent news media. They downplay ideology and focus on their practical mission: stopping white nationalists, neo-Nazis, and other racists from organizing and propagating their views in public. As one activist explained to us in an interview, "Anyone ... who is against Nazis or against fascism is anti-fascist. Many, many people are anti-fascists." In other words, Antifa is as complex and diverse as the like-minded individuals who coordinate in small local groups under its collective banner.

Finally, anti-fascists do not practice a single protest tactic. Activists' "repertoires of contention" include a mix of violent and non-violent practices. As Bray describes in his book, parts of which read like a "how-to" manual on anti-fascist activism, supporters create websites, write articles, post videos, distribute leaflets, and organize public events. They expose and intimidate white supremacists by "doxxing" them, publishing their private information on the Internet in order to embarrass them, build support against them, and — whenever possible — get them fired from their jobs. At protests, some anti-racists, taking a page from their anarchist counterparts, form "black blocs," especially when they expect to scuffle with the police or confront white supremacists. In these formations, protestors wear black clothes and masks to create a more intimidating presence and make it harder for the police to identify individuals for arrest and prosecution.

In the United States, anti-racists have organized under the Antifa banner for over a decade. The oldest existing American anti-racist group, Rose City Antifa, was founded in Portland in 2007 after local anti-racists shut down Hammerfest, the skinhead music festival. However, the larger movement traces its lineage — and name — back to anti-fascist groups that battled Adolf Hitler's Brownshirts in Germany, Benito Mussolini's Blackshirts in Italy, and fascist groups in other European countries in the 1930s. Fifty years later, the movement experienced a resurgence as punk music fans and other anti-racists fought to counter the neo-Nazi skinhead movement in Europe and the United States.

An important feature of the anti-fascist movement's history remains relevant today. Antifa exists in symbiosis with the neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other racists it confronts. The movement's presence and level of activism tend to rise and fall with the fortunes of its far-right opponents. The rise of the white nationalist "alt-right" movement and the election of Trump in 2016 energized anti-fascists in the United States.

In the year after Trump's election, Antifa's activism spiked.

First came the violent demonstrations immediately before and during Trump's inauguration on Jan. 20, 2017. Alongside larger, mostly peaceful protests, an anti-fascist black bloc smashed storefront windows, vandalized ATMs, and set a limousine on fire. The following month, Antifa activists and other protesters spray-painted graffiti, broke windows, and threw Molotov cocktails during a demonstration at the University of California, Berkeley, to prevent the alt-right provocateur, Milo Yiannopoulos, from speaking. Then, in August 2017, anti-fascists fought white supremacists and neo-Nazis at the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, which ended in tragedy when a white supremacist drove his car into a group of anti-racist protesters, killing one and injuring more than 30 others.

The intensity of these "direct actions" reflects many Antifa supporters' belief that Trump is a fascist demagogue who threatens the existence of America's pluralistic, multi-racial democracy. This factor helps explain why such Antifa supporters are so quick to label the president's "Make America Great Again" supporters as fascists — and why Trump is so quick to label Antifa as a terrorist organization.

Antifa's Views on Violence

Much of Antifa's activism relies on non-violent tactics such as community organizing, letter-writing campaigns, and doxxing. But, some supporters — especially those who hold anarchist views — also engage in physical violence. This approach includes spontaneous violence against property and the physical assault of people, like "punching a Nazi in the face," which happened to another alt-right figure, Richard Spencer, during the Trump inauguration protests.

Antifa activists believe that violence and confrontation are necessary to prevent white supremacists and other "fash" from organizing public events where they could spread their beliefs and recruit new supporters. They also believe it works, citing examples like Spencer's announcement that "Antifa is winning" after activists fought his supporters during a speech he gave in March 2018 at Michigan State University. Lamenting anti-fascists' willingness "to go further than anyone else ... [with] violence, intimidating, and general nastiness," Spencer announced that he was suspending his public speaking engagements at public universities.

Anti-fascists celebrate such announcements as proof that they are taking the "fun out of fascism." And, they dismiss critics' concerns that they are blocking Spencer's and other opponents' right to free speech by countering that neo-Nazis and white supremacists are not interested in free speech. Instead, they are interested in accumulating power in order to build a white ethno-state. The only way to prevent the rise of fascism, anti-fascists insist, is to stop white supremacists from spreading their views — by force if necessary. "The point ... is not to give them a platform," explains another Antifa activist. "You don't give fascism a platform because once you give it a platform, it becomes normalized ... Sometimes you have to use direct action to stop it because protesting, signs, yelling is not going to do anything. You have to make them afraid."

Is Antifa a Terrorist Organization?

Given its use of violent tactics and desire to scare white nationalists, should Antifa be labeled a terrorist organization? Consistent with the U.S. State Department's definition of terrorism, does Antifa engage in premeditated violence against specific targets in order to coerce or terrorize a wider audience, typically a government or society, in pursuit of some political goal?

The short answer is "No." As we have discussed, Antifa is not a single organization. If Antifa is not an organization, then it cannot be a terrorist organization — nor would designating it as one have much effect. In accordance with the movement's lack of centralized authority, there is no single Antifa position regarding political violence. For every Antifa activist or group that supports violence, others do not, seeing it as counter-productive and even illegitimate. "Not all Antifa groups are pro-violence," explains an Antifa activist we interviewed. He elaborated:

A lot of times these groups get labeled as gangs or terrorists. Terrorism. It's so easy to throw that word around. Say that word and then all of a sudden that person, that group, that movement is now demonized in the public's eyes because they are supposedly creating terror.

Of course, individuals and groups that lack centralization and formal organization can and do carry out terrorist attacks. One historical example is particularly relevant to our discussion. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, violent anarchists, acting alone and in small groups, carried out terrorist bombings and assassinations in Europe and the United States. While most activists in the larger anarchist movement did not engage in political violence — and some of the terrorists labelled "anarchists" were not, in fact, anarchists — this "first wave" of modern terrorism sealed anarchism's association with terrorism in the public mind. One legacy of this association concerns facile attempts to demonize anarchists and anti-fascists as terrorists without considering the facts involved in specific incidents. Rather than simply labeling Antifa as a "terrorist organization" to score points with certain constituencies, a better approach might be to consider whether individuals and small groups have conducted terrorism in the name of Antifa.

Contemporary anti-fascists clearly seek to intimidate their "fascist" adversaries by doxxing them and physically confronting them at protests. However, shoving white nationalists to the ground, punching them in the face, or hitting them with sticks does not constitute the level of violence typically associated with terrorism. If it does, then we must ask whether the targets of these efforts, who often give as violently as they get, are also engaged in terrorism.

These physical confrontations are better understood as spontaneous clashes between Antifa supporters and their white supremacist rivals, including the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Bois. When they spiral out of control, these brawls can quickly deteriorate into melees or riots. But, these incidents are not pre-planned terrorist attacks instigated by one actor against another. Nor do these clashes spark fear and dread in a wider audience beyond the immediate victims of the violence. Trump and his supporters do not likely feel "terrorized" by these street clashes. In fact, the president has willingly exploited this low-level violence to rally his supporters and raise funds for his re-election campaign.

However, not all anti-fascist violence is limited to batons and fisticuffs. On occasion, Antifa supporters have escalated their violence — particularly in Europe, where anarchists and anti-fascists tend to be more aggressive. In Greece, supporters from the local anti-fascist movement shot and killed two members from the far-right Golden Dawn party in retaliation against the murder of a popular anti-fascist rapper.

Fortunately, the Antifa movement in the United States has been less violent than its European counterpart. Yet, there are examples of American anti-fascists escalating their violence beyond shoving and fistfights. Last July, Willem Van Spronsen attacked an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Tacoma, Washington, with a rifle and incendiary devices. Before he could cause much damage, the 68-year-old man was shot and killed by the police. After his death, a manifesto was posted in Van Spronsen's name on It's Going Down and other anarchist websites. In his manifesto, Van Spronsen identified himself as an Antifa supporter ("I am antifa"), railed against the Trump administration's policy of detaining illegal immigrants ("fascist hooligans preying on vulnerable people in our streets"), and called for violent resistance against the government ("I strongly encourage comrades and incoming comrades to arm themselves. We are now responsible for defending people from the predatory state").

These examples illustrate how Antifa's violence could escalate to terrorism or guerrilla warfare if it is channeled into a more organized, sustained, and bloody campaign. If anti-fascists started bombing buildings with explosives or gunning down Immigration and Customs Enforcement employees and white supremacists in the streets, it would make sense to consider such incidents terrorism. But that's not what we are seeing — at least so far. Though sucker-punching someone in the face is certainly violent, it's not terrorism.

Interestingly, any push to terrorism among Antifa supporters would likely be met by opposition from within the movement. Many activists who accept the moral necessity of violence against what they see as an inherently violent "fascist" state balk at the prospect of indiscriminate violence against innocent civilians. A veteran anarchist and Antifa supporter, whom we interviewed, drew a sharp distinction between legitimate and illegitimate violence:

There's extremists that think, "Okay, if I go bomb something, that's legitimate." That to me is insane because it doesn't accomplish anything and it always harms innocent people ... You want to use violence to push back against violence being perpetrated against you. So the more the state pushes against you, you have the right to push back.

When asked to clarify what sort of extremists he had in mind, he mentioned the so-called "Cleveland Five," who reportedly plotted to blow up a bridge in Detroit during the Occupy movement. While noting that the plot itself was "pushed" along by the FBI's use of a confidential informant, our interviewee stressed that, had the bombing succeeded, the resulting violence would have been unacceptable: "That's not legitimate. That's not smart. That's not valid ... wanting violence for violence's sake is evil."

It is hard to imagine this and other activists remaining enthusiastic anti-fascists if the movement were to engage in widespread, indiscriminate violence against their fellow citizens. Escalating to such violence would likely weaken Antifa as erstwhile supporters decide the movement has gone too far. Yet, short of this violent trajectory, it is hard to imagine classifying Antifa — with any degree of accuracy — as a terrorist organization.

Why Does It Matter?

Few believe that Trump will actually move forward with designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. For starters, there have been few recorded incidents of actual violence linked to the movement aside from vandalism and fistfights. By that metric, any neighborhood gang would similarly qualify as a domestic terrorism threat. Though the United States does not have a domestic terrorism law, there is an underlying statute that the president could use to sanction Antifa. Trump could conceivably create a new executive order to designate Antifa as a domestic terrorist group, which has never happened before in the history of the country. However, if Trump is serious about designating a domestic terrorist group for the first time, there is a litany of groups, as previously mentioned, that would make more sense than Antifa.

In all likelihood, just as he did after threatening to designate Mexican drug-trafficking cartels as terrorist organizations in November 2019, Trump will relent on Antifa as the protests ebb and the movement becomes a less controversial issue for his base ahead of the November 2020 presidential election.

Meanwhile, Trump's suggestion that Martin Gugino, the Catholic social justice advocate from Buffalo, is an Antifa activist has been linked to Russian disinformation. Yet even more concerning than the president tweeting conspiracy theories that could have their origins in Russian disinformation campaigns is his continued politicization of terrorism.

Trump damages the legitimacy of American democracy when he insists that his political opponents are terrorists when they are not. However distasteful Antifa's activism is, spontaneous street brawls are not the same as terrorism. Today the president willingly applies this label to Antifa. What is to prevent him from doing the same in the future to other activist groups that protest against him and his supporters, such as Black Lives Matter?

Policymakers must decide which terrorism threats are the most serious and, carefully prioritize them for designation based on facts — not politics. In the case of Antifa, the facts suggest that anti-fascism is not a clear and present terrorist threat in the United States, no matter how much the president may wish otherwise.

Michael Kenney is a professor at the University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Public and International Affairs. Colin P. Clarke is a senior research fellow at The Soufan Center and an associate fellow at the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism - The Hague.



Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:14 PM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 31 October 2020 1:16 PM PDT
Monday, 12 October 2020
Broken Window - Broken Bones - HATE on the RISE
Mood:  irritated
Now Playing: My heart cries ...for the human skin... not corporate windows

A reply I sent to an email I recieved that mentioned windows broken and a statue toppled in Portland by protesters. 

(windows broken statue toppled)

to start the converstaion
i dont throw rocks or break window
i dont like seeing stuff happen like this....
its sad that these issues cannot be rectified


when a country prides its self on racism and hate and violence
when we have statues and art that cherishes that ugliness
something needs to change !
something will change !
it has to

i don't support property damage
but a building or a glass door... or a cement statue mean very little to me
i don't think OMG ..... I actually think "why are people so upset to react like that?"

i wouldnt act that way *but
...i understand their rage and hurt and the meaning of these symbols (statues/art etc.)
to be crushed or removed ...they cant continue to stand in representing what they are (its not right)

sad times
never seen so much hate in all my life
i blame elected leadership and us citizens
i blame and the support citizens toss to the leadership
.... "to keep the status quo and make no changes"
i blame the support of citizens encouraging Gov Agents using guns, violence, prison, military and its weapons to crush any protesting change ideas or social justice concerns

i always will also repect life
over property
if you have to only pick one --> I say LIFE --> I say People ....
Cause it is getting down to what side are you supporting

I could write for hours on this topic
i spent 20 years begging the leaders to work for peace
(yet) the past 2 years has unleashed so much HATE upon our society challenging all I worked for
to such an EXTREME degree that I no longer try to change society or help push forward peace (its to late)
50 percent of the country hates my activism and supported crushing the left progressive peace / justice voice
Hundreds flock to wave guns and flags and mock and threaten my voice and my 20 year message
That worries me WAY more than broken windows

I (myself) worry nothing much over property damage these days (i knew it was coming)

I REALLY worry --> that the heart of America's soul is now gone - that's the gut feeling worry I get now!
We are a country of guns police and power and abuse, and we use it AGAINST our own citizens
...and its a failing greedy corrupt system that is crumbling  before our eyes

too bad we couldn't of peacefully all worked together
everything I worked "peacefully" for years ...was met w/ resistance
the powers that be (GOV, Police, Big Banks, Big Labor, EPA, Police Unions, Mayors Office) all pushed back and made no amends to correct or hear the voice for change. 

I was concerned about police abuse for 20 years and took those issue front and center to City Hall or the police
- the reaction from leaders and the average society was -->  SHUT UP they have a hard job to do

The mayor, the president, big banks, big corporations, immigration laws, civil rights, and little old grannies asking for no more war ...have all been met w/ OPPOSIOTION FULL ON and been pushed back by armed guns and GOV agents
... So with all the push back - it takes "the protest" to new levels.
The writing was on the wall obvious to me.
Violence begets violence.
For 20 years I face armed cops right nose to nose.
They had weapons...we had peace signs. THEY HATED US - THEY PUSHED US AND ARRESTED US
we were all peaceful .... the authorities response has NOW increased the level
The peaceful group n longer "just takes it" they are pushing back and I applaud the bravery, that i cant do
I don want to be beat up or imprisoned for many years on trumped up Riot charges

I gave up trying to make peaceful change the very next day Trump took office
I laid my camera down and headed to the woods
I am as pissed as many of the protesters you see on twitter
I'm fed up - so are they - I am beyond fed up - Its an APEX - Militant Violence is next

So a window is broken
My heart is broken
The window or statue doesn't break my heart
The hate to other people sanctioned and approved by our corrupt capitalist 'racist; country makes me cry
My heart hurts over how we treat immigrants
My heart bleeds daily on our evil sick ICE laws to cage families and say we are a good people a proud nation(not)
I don't hurt over a broken statue

The irony and crazy world we live in is ruled by people who like /love property
And could care less about people
Its Property over People
The police "protect property"
and THEN (also) beat people up or cage them in their HUGE prison system  (But ...its their job so its OK!) (not)

This (rage in the streets) .... is the outcome due to this bad system
and it will get worse as we go
Mark My Words! I know more windows will be broken and thus more humans caged, [property over people]

You don't fix societies troubles with violence on people
the first reaction to that will be ----> property will be ruined
Its a no brainer

My heart is broken
Not by the revolution and the protesters.
But by the establishment and brute authorities police protecting capitalism and its array of prisons, torture camps, ICE cages, and Walls of Hate.

sad days
sad it has to get this low
sad that violence on people will be used to try to contain the uprising
sad that --> love and compassion and understanding...WILL NOT BE USED (repeat) NOT BE USED by police
sad that this administration will make no amends or change in its behavior (NONE) repeat (NONE)
sad that people will be hurt and killed

oh ya
sad that a window got broken

I dont mean to be smart ass about it
the revolution has been afoot for a decade
the fact it has not gotten better for ANY SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUE
has caused RAGE in the streets

i FULLY understand it
i FULLY see why it happens
I FULLY see how it could be changed

but it wont
the resistance will be met with guns and violence on their bodies
the human bodies of resister will be shot, beat and chained, they will receive LIFE sentences for rioting{?}
the human bodies who stand defiantly for change --- will BE BEAT DOWN
the humans who want to confront this corrupt system head on WILL BE MET WITH ARMED GANGS
and cheered on as they are dragged across the cement ...tearing at their skin...tossed into a cell to ...
let their human body ROT in a cement cell with ""RIOT charges""
that human skin will rot off his human bone in that cell
... and meanwhile the WINDOW WILL BE REPLACED....

the beat goes on
get the bad guy
stop the protest
don't break window
let the skin rot
build bigger cages

alas ....I'm going camping for 10 days on Oct 17th
my heart will be crying......
but not over a toppled statue or broken glass

Peace and Resistance
Better Days Ahead

Joe Anybody

(the guy who gave up)





Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:44 AM PDT
Updated: Monday, 12 October 2020 11:53 AM PDT
Saturday, 3 October 2020
Down is the New Up/ The New World (TRUMPed)
Mood:  don't ask
Now Playing: Chandler/ X and whats his name

Down is the New Up/ The New World
Chandler/ X

Honest to goodness
The bars weren't open this morning
They must have been voting for a new president of something

Under the Bush administration
I spent about 300 days a year doing
nothing but making George W Bush Joke
But under Trump,
I have barely mentioned his name.

At first I did not want to add to the noise out there...
(and there is a lot of NOISE out there!)
then I didn't want to go off half cocked...
then I wasn't sure which direction to fire
because bullets ricochet
in funny directions when you live in a bubble.
That is floating like the ghosts of Joe Hill, Harriet Tubman, Eugene Debbs, Mother Jones
and Caesar Chavez

Do you have a quarter?
I said, "Yes", because I did
Honest to goodness, the tears have been falling
All over this country's face
It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world
It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

and this got me to thinking...
If a ghost can walk through walls -
Why doesn't he fall through the floor?
At that point I realized
I was on the edge of something really big...
standing upon a giant precipice.
And that is probably not a good time to put your
best foot forward...
I mean.
I've always liked the metaphor of hell being beneath us...
'Cause Sometimes...
Ya gotta go through hell...
Don't we know it!
Aren't we all goin through hell these days?
but sometimes ya gotta go through hell
Ya gotta get down there and wrestle 'dem demons
Hell,... Sometimes...
Ya gotta get down there
and jello wrestle 'dem demons -
but when yer goin' through hell, like we're all goin' through right now  - what ya gotta do is keep going -
'cause the world is round
and if you keep goin throuh hell, and you keep goin'
you're gone' come out on the other side -
wondering why everyone is speaking in Australian accent.

It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name

In the Trump Era,

This was supposed to be the new world

 down is the new up

It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name

"Make America Great Again"

This was supposed to be the new world

 and "America First"

It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name

are contradictory statements -

This was supposed to be the new world

America will be great again,
when she sees herself IN the
world not AS the world.

America will be great again
when she treats her
neighbors like she would herself.

She will be great again
when she realizes that
" America First"
implies that there is a race
... in which one could be or become first in
- in the first place.
Not America First...
Earth First...

Flint Ford Auto
Mobile, Alabama
Windshield Wiper
Buffalo, New York
Gary, Indiana
Don't forget the Motor City
Washington, D.C
Now is not all we need.

What he is proposing is The wall building, The Trade wars is Nationalism... Pure and simple...
and the infrastructure spending,
that is being proposed is well... socialism...
it is in fact - a word that I don't like to use that often because I think it waters it down... but there is no way around it - it is in fact, by by definition..
National Socialism.
so if WE are looking for a way forward...
and I think we are all looking for a way forward...
let us grab every crow bar,
every monkey wrench,
every guitar,
every paintbrush
Every Ballot
and use them as a tool
to to pry the socialism away from the nationalism.

It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world
It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

... this Cabinet of Billionaires
and I want you to mention this to your conservative friends and family, because i know you've got them...
The rich that are in power
could really care less about any of this whako
conservative agenda…
But as long as there is something resembling a
government, the rich need large numbers of people to
support them.
So they will say or do anything to stay in office.
(hear this!)
they don't actually care of these social issues.
They don't NEED to care.
They don't LIVE in society.
They have their own school systems,
their own hospitals.
They have their own police force.
Soon they will have their own military.
I am not afraid of Iran getting the bomb.
I am afraid of Exxon getting the bomb.

It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world
It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

Oh sure, they will give money to the church to show they
"Care" about social issues.
But, we all know giving money to the church doesn't
make you a good person any more than buying tickets to
the game makes you a third-baseman.

What the church offers to the rich is people.
The one thing the 1% does not have
is people -
99% of us to be exact.

All we need is money
Just give us what you can spare
Twenty or thirty pounds of potatoes
Or twenty or thirty beers

But wait a second...
within the 99% a whole lotta
working class folks voted for Trump!
and are planning on voting for him again.
Poor people. MY people!
What did we do SO wrong
to allow your average red neck to
believe a billionaire
descending from the Heavens
on a gold plated escalator
in a Manhattan skyscraper
has their interests at heart?
To make the world GREAT again, we
WE have to burst our own bubbles!
We have to go out there and yes,
befriend a red neck.
befriend them (us)
Because regardless of how this election goes,
we are still a divided nation.
But, if each and every one of us goes out and befriends,
and turns around!
one Trump Supporter
we could make America Great again...
and THAT America
maybe (just maybe)
COULD help make the world great again.
It was better before, before they voted for What's-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

Walk softly and carry a big carrot.

Because like I've always said -  if you think there is a
cutting edge , than you ain't on it.

Which is why I don't think this is that "edgy" of a

...if the rich can cross the lines
between right and wrong
like ghosts walk through walls - maybe it is time they
also fell through the floor.

And maybe (just maybe)
 they will all go straight to hell -

This was supposed to be the new world

and frankly, that's the problem...
the rich have never been to hell.

This was supposed to be the new world

They have never known suffering, want or need.

This was supposed to be the new world

so maybe,
if they spent an hour
experiencing the hell
that you and I go through on a daily basis,

they would understand what hell really is
and remember that the world is round.
and maybe, they would keep going until
We all come out on the other side.

why everybody is speaking
with an Australian accent.

and this COULD be the new world


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Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:06 PM PDT
Friday, 18 September 2020
Im too busy
Mood:  a-ok
Now Playing: A video on the topic of IM TOO BUSY

We use this sentence very often in our life. How can we use it less?


This is worth listening to. There are afew tips and insight on what is important in our life and what do we pend our time doing.


A zen perspective--> https://youtu.be/vmwf-9w1O9A





Posted by Joe Anybody at 9:53 AM PDT
Sunday, 12 April 2020
5-5-5 The twelth day of 30
Mood:  chillin'
Now Playing: Sunday - Getting ready to escape the city in the morning
Topic: 5-5-5 Social Distance

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5 Things I did that day

1. Woke up around 7:30 AM - thats too early - so I took a nap at noon - Back up relaxing in the back yard listening to music and looking at the one (lone) male duck (again) he follows his female buddy so closly that it seems odd to find him swimming in the pool alone

2. Got all my supplies purchased from the store for the cmping trip, another friend will be going with us - plenty of room up there to keep our social distance

3. Listened to Dragnet on Old Time Radio - Youtube) - 30 min program

4. Paid some bills and stared at my budget for what seemed like endless minutes

5. Went through an old box of tapes that I had lost track of...it had over 150 Grateful Dead cassets in it ..WOW...nice find - blew off the dust and repacked them - Not loosing track of these.... this time

5 Ideas & reoccurring thoughts of mine

1. Planning on camping at Shady Grove for the NEXT 3 nights and getting the cabin roof and door put on - Gonna have to look over my notes and some YouTube videos  how to do it - in order to be refreshed and confident. Lee is going with me we are driving in his truck full of supplies  

2. Wondering if I will be able to post to my 555 Social DIstancing blog when Im off grid m-th? I can get a cell signal in certain areas on my property ...its more of the uploading to the internet with my cell phone that might be cumbersome...we will find out tomorrow,

3. The Art Museum posts the info on the news ...that they are closed for a few months and are giving the staff a chance to use up their sick /vacation hours here is the article https://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/2020/04/portland-art-museum-puts-staff-on-unpaid-leave-hopes-to-reopen-this-summer.html

4. First watch this 4 min video that is pertiant to our time at hand then check out Micky Hart one of the drummers from the Grateful Dead https://youtu.be/ngr11ygtXC8  ...announces ‘Shakedown Stream’ Archive Concert Webcasts  --- Here is that new streaming website link

5. Still Positive Thoughts !! And waiting for the curve to flatten - We are in this together


5 Pictures of things I have seen or want to pass along to others

1. Camping Time at Shady Grove

2. Picture of a weed / COVID19 T-shirt my friend sent me

3. Relaxing on the wall

4. Art Museum Grand Ballroom - view from a boom-lift near the ceiling looking down

5. my Tent at Shady Grove - ran the picture thru a software manipulation


Posted by Joe Anybody at 4:35 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 12 April 2020 11:38 PM PDT

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