Zebra 3 Report by Joe Anybody
Tuesday, 12 September 2006
SPEAK UP .....YA GOT TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS LOUD
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: ASKING QUESTIONS & DROPPING KNOWLEDGE
Topic: POLITICS

DROPPING

 

 

KNOWLEDGE

http://www.youtube.com/v/pLOjpsPGprI

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 2:11 AM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 2:26 AM PDT
Cool Free Media Video Website
Mood:  lyrical
Now Playing: Blip TV = Video by Young Woman on Truth & Media
Topic: MEDIA

 

 

http://blip.tv/file/72639

 

USA & IRAQ = PEACE


http://marashivlog.blogspot.com/

 

 

 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 1:31 AM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:02 PM PDT
Sunday, 10 September 2006
REALITY CHECK ON 911
Mood:  blue
Now Playing: SEPTEMBER 11 REMEMBERED BY AVERAGE JOE
Topic: 911 TRUTH

OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE THAT DIED AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL GIVING THEIR LIVES DUE TO THIS ATROCITY, I URGE EVERYONE OF YOU TO CONTINUE TO SEEK THE TRUTH AND THE REAL ANSWERS TO WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 11 2001.

TO THIS DAY IN A TOTAL DISREGARD TO HONEST GOVERNMENT WE HAVE NOT INVESTIGATED THIS PROPERLY, AND IT IS BEING USED AS THE STUMP SPEECH FOR THE NEO-CON AGENDA TO ACHIEVE BY FORCE COMPLETE WORLD DOMINANCE. DO YOU NEED ANOTHER REASON BEFORE YOU GET UP AND BECOME OUTRAGED.

OR DO YOU STILL REMEMBER?

 

SEPTEMBER 11 YOUtube VIDEO HERE

 

A 911 lecture by DR_Griffin Santa Rosa Oct_04

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:27 PM PDT
Updated: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:16 AM PDT
Every now in then ....ya just cant stop smiling
Mood:  party time!
Now Playing: Fun Links - For A Change
Topic: ANYBODY * ANYDAY

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 3:19 PM PDT
Saturday, 9 September 2006
abc - Puts spin on 9-11 Movie -- this Sept 10th & 11th on Public TV
Mood:  irritated
Now Playing: 911 Bull*Crap Coming Your Way
Topic: 911 TRUTH

Doesn't

 

this feel creepy?

 

Spin and Lies, are used blatantly

 concerning September 11 2001

There is nothing worse than those that hold Power, or Public Positions and they abuse their positions. In this case the citizens and the public own these public stations and these airwaves, so how is it they can lie and deceive us on our airwaves without any impunity?

 

www.joe-anybody.com presents:

"YOU OWE YOURSELF THE TRUTH"


Harvey Keitel, played in this movie, see what he has to say:: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/

 

Joe Anybody blog from last week read what he said:: index.blog?entry_id=1552930

 

Bill Bennett agrees there are lies in this, see his opinion;  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePQ-VGBeMQ

 

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Posted by Joe Anybody at 7:45 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 10 September 2006 1:31 AM PDT
These Were Politicans That Worked For Us - Their Busted Now
Mood:  hug me
Now Playing: REPUBLICIAN JAIL-BIRD LIST (some Dems too)
Topic: FAILURE by the GOVERNMENT

CHECK OUT THIS WEBSITE 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/grandolddocket.php

IT HAS SOME NEAT-O INFORMATION ON THE CROOKS THAT WORKED FOR THE BUSHMAN CLUB - WHO HAVE BEEN CAUGHT - AND ARE NOW, BUSTED & HEADING FOR JAIL!


So this is the leadership style of the Republican Band of Crooks, Look over this list, it is shocking to note these are all Republicans. They have been stealing and lying and By Golly they got caught. My only hope is their ring leaders and other henchmen will go down too. There is a couple Democrats on the list but the Grand Old Party has by far been the Lions Share of the list of Liars and Loosers

HAPPY READING

THE WORLD IS A LITTLE SAFER

AND THE JAIL IS FILLING UP FAST


Posted by Joe Anybody at 10:35 AM PDT
Friday, 8 September 2006
Read how Dick beats around the bush
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: What a Disgrace This Is Pathetic
Topic: TORTURE

 

 This spin and dodging is pathetic.Notice Dicks opinion on torture and CIA prisons. My God this is our Leader and I am ashamed! We have been screwed over. This is not my country,it is being ruined by this neocon! This is piss-poor leadership it is asinine and very very wrong.

 


 

DICK CHENEY INTERVIEW

Dec. 18, 2005 — What does Vice President Dick Cheney really think about what's going on in Iraq, the latest revelations about domestic spying and the anti-torture amendment?

The usually media-shy Cheney made a surprise trip Sunday to Iraq, where he talked with ABC News' Terry Moran, co-anchor of "Nightline," about some of the biggest issues facing our country and the world.   

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/IraqCoverage/story?id=1419206

On the Domestic Spying Program

 

Terry Moran: Let me shift gears. The president has now acknowledged authorizing and reauthorizing, more than 30 times, a program to spy on Americans without any warrant from any court. This is a huge change.

Vice President Dick Cheney: I think that's a slight distortion of what the president said. The president said — is that we will use all of our power and authority — the decision we made after 9/11 — to do everything we can to defend the country. That's our obligation. We take an oath of office to do that.

Moran: That's not in dispute.

Cheney: And that when we have a situation where we have communication between someone inside the U.S. and an acknowledged al Qaeda or terrorist source outside the U.S., that that's something we need to know.

And he has authorized us to look at that. And it is, in fact, consistent with the constitution. It's been reviewed. It's reviewed every 45 days by the president himself, by the attorney general of the U.S., by the president's council, by the director of CIA.

It's been briefed to the Congress over a dozen times. And, in fact, it is a program that is, by every effort we've been able to make, consistent with the statutes and with the law. It's the kind of capability [that], if we'd had before 9/11, might have led us to be able to prevent 9/11.

We had two 9/11 terrorists in San Diego prior to the attack in contact with al Qaeda sources outside the U.S. We didn't know it. The 9/11 Commission talks about it. If we'd had this capability, then we might well have been able to stop it.

Moran: But, Mr. Vice President, this is a program that surveilles people inside the United States. The Constitution—

Cheney: Who are in touch with al Qaeda who are outside the United States.

Moran: Don't you have to have a court give permission for that in any other circumstance — to eavesdrop on communications in America?

Cheney: Terry, these are communications that involve acknowledged or known terrorists — dirty numbers, if you will. And in fact, it is consistent with the president's constitutional authority as commander in chief. It's consistent with the resolution that was passed by the Congress after 9/11.

And it has been reviewed repeatedly by the Justice Department every single time it's been renewed, to make certain that it is, in fact, managed in a manner that's fully consistent with the Constitution and with our statutes.

Moran: But that's all the executive branch. The Constitution calls for a court, a co-equal branch of government, as a check on the power of the executive, to give a say-so before an American or someone in America is surveilled, or searched, or spied upon.

Cheney: This has been done, Terry, in a manner that is completely consistent with our obligations and requirements, I can assure you. That's one of the reasons we hold it and watch it so carefully. That's why it has to go the president every 30 days to 45 days, to make absolutely certain we are in compliance with all of the safeguards with respect to individual liberty, and that it is managed in a very conservative fashion, and it is signed up to by the attorney general of the U.S. and reviewed by the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department.

So we spend a lot of time making certain that this is, in fact, safeguarded. And as I say, we've briefed Congress on it — just a few members, the leadership — on over a dozen occasions.

Moran: Let me take you up on that. Sen. Graham of Florida, ex-Sen. Graham, who was on the Intelligence Committee at the time this program began, suggested to us that when you briefed him, you misled him, [that] you didn't tell him the full scope of the program. That's his feeling now that he sees it exposed.

Cheney: Well, that's not true.

Moran: He knew.

Cheney: He knew. I sat in my office with Gen. Hayden, who was then the head of NSA, who's now the deputy director of the National Intelligence Directorate, and he was briefed as long as he was chairman of the committee, or ranking member of the committee.

 

On the Anti-Torture Amendment

 

Moran: The president has said we do not torture, and Sen. McCain proposed a measure in part to vindicate those values that would ban the cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of any person in U.S. custody anywhere in the world. Why did he [Bush] fight so hard against that?

Cheney: Well, we ultimately reached a compromise between the president and Sen. McCain, and it was arrived at just last week. But what I— Excuse me. The position I took was one that was the position the administration had taken when we signaled to the Congress that we were prepared to veto a bill that went farther than we thought it should, in terms of trying to restrict the prerogatives of the president, and—

Moran: How so, when it comes to cruel, inhuman— What's the president's prerogative in the cruel treatment of prisoners?

Cheney: There's a definition that's based on prior Supreme Court decisions and prior arguments, and it has to do with the Fourth, Thirteenth, and — three specific amendments to the Constitution. And the rule is whether or not it shocks the conscience. If it's something that shocks the conscience, the court has agreed that crosses over the line.

Now, you can get into a debate about what shocks the conscience and what is cruel and inhuman. And to some extent, I suppose, that's in the eye of the beholder. But I believe, and we think it's important to remember, that we are in a war against a group of individuals and terrorist organizations that did, in fact, slaughter 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11, that it's important for us to be able to have effective interrogation of these people when we capture them.

And the debate is over the extent to which we are going to have legislation that restricts or limits that capability. Now, as I say, we've reached a compromise. The president signed on with the McCain amendment. We never had any problem with the McCain amendment. We had problems with trying to extend it as far as he did.

But ultimately, as I say, a compromise was arrived at, and I support the compromise.

Moran: Should American interrogators be staging mock executions [and] waterboarding prisoners? Is that cruel?

Cheney: I am not going to get into specifics here. You're getting into questions about sources and methods, and I don't talk about that, Terry.

Moran: As vice president of the U.S., you can't tell the American people whether…

Cheney: I don't talk about—

Moran: …or not we would interrogate…

Cheney: I can say that we, in fact, are consistent with the commitments of the United States that we don't engage in torture. And we don't.

Moran: Are you troubled at all that more than 100 people in U.S. custody have died — 26 of them now being investigated as criminal homicides — people beaten to death, suffocated to death, died of hypothermia in U.S. custody?

Cheney: No. I won't accept your numbers, Terry. But I guess one of the things I'm concerned about is that as we get farther and farther away from 9/11, and there have been no further attacks against the U.S., there seems to be less and less concern about doing what's necessary in order to defend the country.

I think, for example, the Patriot Act — this week, the Patriot Act, a vital piece of legislation — it was, in fact, passed in the aftermath of 9/11. It extended to our ability to operate with respect to the counterterrorist effort.

It gave us authorities that were already used in other areas against drug traffickers and so forth that broke down that wall between law enforcement and intelligence that had prohibited cooperation. …

And what I'm concerned about, Terry, is that as we get farther and farther from 9/11, we've got — we seem to have people less and less committed to doing everything that's necessary to defend the country.

The Patriot Act, up for renewal, was filibustered in the Senate this week by the Democrats and blocked from passage. As a result, parts of that are going to expire on Dec. 31. Somehow, I think a lot of people have lost their sense of urgency out there. That's hard for me to do or for the president to do.

We get up every morning, and the first thing we do is an intelligence brief, where we look at the threats to the United States. We do that six days a week. We're well aware that there are still terrorists out there who mean to do evil, that they're trying their best to get their hands on deadlier weapons, biological agents or nuclear weapons, to use against us.

And we need to maintain the capability of this government to be able to defend the nation. And that means we have to take extraordinary measures, but we do do it in a manner that's consistent with the Constitution and consistent with our statutes.

On the Current State of Iraq

 

Moran: So this is your first trip to Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein?

Cheney: It is.

Moran: What surprised you today? What do you know about Iraq today that you didn't know yesterday?

Cheney: Well, I think, like most people who've looked at it, I've been tremendously impressed with what happened in the election just this past week. I mean, I really think that may be a seminal event in the history of Iraq, that it's such an important part of the process of building a democracy, a viable Iraq, an Iraq that can stand on its own, that the thing that strikes you when you come out is just the mood and the demeanor of the people you talk with — speaking with Talabani and Jaafri, for example.

I've met with both of them before, but they both, I think, were visibly relieved at how big the turnout was — that, in fact, the process is working, that there is strong support even in the Sunni areas for participation in the political process.

Moran: But you know, we've had elections before in this country, now, twice before this. There was that moment of hope after the January elections, with the amazing sights that that brought out, and those hopes have been dashed again and again.

What makes you think this time it's going to be different?

Cheney: I disagree with the notion that hopes have been dashed. I don't think that's true.

Moran: Well, the violence has continued.

Cheney: Well, the violence has continued, but I think the key in terms of looking at the elections is that they've made every single milestone that's been set, every single one, from the time we turned over sovereignty in June of '04, to the first elections in January, then writing the constitution, getting the constitution ratified, and now national elections under that new constitution.

They've had three elections this year. Each one's gotten better and stronger and more effective. I do think it's serving to undermine the legitimacy of the insurgency. I think it will make it increasingly difficult for the insurgents to be effective.

We see it, for example, in the volume of tips that we get from the Iraqi people, intelligence information about where to find weapons caches, or who's responsible for some of the terrorist attacks. There's been a quantum leap over the course of the last year in terms of the number of intelligence reports coming in.

The academy is doing better. The Iraqi security services are clearly much, much better now. There's a big change there over the last 18 months. I met today with some of the members and the leader of the 9th Mechanized Iraqi Division. These are men who've signed on to support the new government.

And the benefit of having that election now is we're going to have a government that's a legitimate government of Iraq that nobody can claim lacks legitimacy. It's an Iraqi government elected by Iraqis under a constitution written by Iraqis. And so I think all of that is measurable progress.

And while the level of violence has continued, I do believe that when we look back on this period of time, 2005 will have been the turning point when, in fact, we made sufficient progress both on the political front and the security front, so that we'll see that as the watershed year.

Moran: You talk about undermining the legitimacy of the resistance. Before the war you said Americans would be greeted as liberators here, and yet your own trip here today was undertaken in such secrecy that not even the prime minister of this country knew you were coming, and your movements around are in incredible secrecy and security. Do you ever think about how and why you got it wrong?

Cheney: I don't think I got it wrong. I think the vast majority of the Iraqi people are grateful for what the U.S. did. I think they believe overwhelmingly that they're better off today than they were when Saddam Hussein ruled.

I think the vast majority of them think of us as liberators. And I think your own polls show that, Terry. If you look at the poll that was done just recently by ABC, it shows a great deal of optimism, of hope, on the part of the Iraqi people, that their lives are better and going to get better in the future.

So I really believe the notion that somehow the Iraqi people opposed what we did when we came in and toppled Saddam Hussein, or that a majority of them were against it, is just dead wrong. It's not true. I think a majority of them support it.

 

 

On Reports of Secret CIA Prisons

 

Moran: Does the United States maintain secret prisons around the world?

Cheney: I'm not going to talk about intelligence matters.

Moran: Secret prisons?

Cheney: I'm not going to talk about intelligence matters.

Moran: Does the International Red Cross have access to everyone in U.S. custody, as we are obliged?

Cheney: Terry, with all due respect, I won't discuss intelligence matters. I shouldn't.

Moran: I'd like to put this personally, if I can. You're a grandfather. I'm a father. When we look at those girls and we think that the country we're about to pass to them is a country where the vice president can't say whether or not we have secret prisons around the world, whether waterboarding and mock executions is consistent with our values, and a country where the government is surveilling without the warrant of a court, is that the country we want to pass on to them?

Cheney: I want to pass on to them a country that is free, that is not plagued by terrorist attacks, doesn't see a repeat of the terrible events of 9/11 when we lost 3,000 of our people that morning to a handful of terrorists who had no justification at all for what they do.

I can guarantee you that we do do as a government, as an administration, is to support and uphold the Constitution of United States, that we do, in fact, take extraordinary steps to make certain we maintain our constitutional obligations and responsibilities, which includes both defending the country as well as defending individual liberties and protecting the rights of all Americans.

And I want my kids to grow up in a strong, free, independent America where they are safe from the kinds of outrages that have been perpetrated not only in New York and Washington, but in Madrid, Casablanca, and Istanbul, and Bali, and Jakarta, all over the globe.

And we're up against a very tough adversary, and under those circumstances we need to do everything we can to protect the American people. And that's got to be a prime concern for us, and it is.

 

On the Indictment of Lewis Libby

 

Moran: Another subject. When did you first hear the name Valerie Plame?

Cheney: Well, I'm going to respectfully decline to talk about that. There is a trial pending. I have been constrained for the last 2.5 years not talking about that case, because there was an investigation under way.

And now with a trial pending, I think it would be inappropriate for me to say anything about it at all, so I have not said anything about it and won't.

Moran: Can you say, as vice president — can you answer — did you direct anyone to disclose her identity or to lie about…

Cheney: Terry, you can ask the question any way you want. Scooter Libby is a close friend of mine. He's one of the most able and talented people I know. He's entitled to the presumption of innocence, and from my perspective it would be totally inappropriate for me to comment, period. That's been my posture now for 2.5 years and will continue to be.

Moran: I'm going to try once more, because I'm not really asking about the criminal investigation.

Cheney: The answer will be the same, Terry.

Moran: I'm asking about the conduct of the vice president. And people have a right to know this. Did you direct anyone to disclose her name or to cover up disclosing her name?

Cheney: Terry, I have given you the answer. I will not say any more about it. There will be a time when I can discuss it, but not now.

Moran: Fair enough. You mentioned Scooter Libby is a close friend, and…

Cheney: He is.

Moran: … he's worked with you for a long time. What do you make of what he's going through?

Cheney: Well, I'm sure it's very tough. But he's a good man. He's a patriot. And as I say, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence. And we'll leave it at that.


 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:27 PM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 9 September 2006 11:31 AM PDT
IMPORTANT WARNING: 911 Truth - Disney and ABC Lies
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: LIES and Republican Spin - Take Action
Topic: 911 TRUTH

Tell ABC to Tell the Truth About 9/11

From the pages of --> http://thinkprogress.org/tellabc 

(quote)On September 10th and 11th, ABC Television is planning to run an "inaccurate" film depicting the events leading up to the 9/11 attacks. The film was written by an avowed conservative and it largely places the blame for failing to prevent the attacks on the Clinton administration while whitewashing the failures of the Bush administration.

Our review of the film shows it to be full of such inaccuracies. Its distorted version of history is inconsistent with the 9/11 Commission Report, upon which it claims to be based. The events leading up to September 11, 2001 are too important and too tragic to play politics with the facts.(end quote)

Now my fellow z3 readers will know that this accusation is only half true. Not only do I agree with the thinkprogress website and urge you all to get involved with their issue on this, I go even farther and say there were many, many, lies and cover ups. We as a Nation are being tricked, lied to and abused! Now the word tricked sure is tame compared to using other accusations I could use, yet you know what I mean.

The link above is on the new ABC 911 movie coming out that is full of miss-leading information and twists that are NOT TRUE yet the whole movie is portrayed as a  True Report and it is inferred that the movie is compiled from that.... infamous 911 Commission Report.....but that that is not the fact. It is fabricated and not fact. The movie wants you to think it source WAS the Commision Report, but in reality is just LIES & SPIN!

This movie is misleading and flat out lies. It is being previewed only in Republican circles by being provided in advance to only approximately 900 right-wing bloggers and media personalities such as Rush Limbaughand It will be released on 9-10 & 9-11 to the general Public.

(No preview released to the general media, just the hard line Republican pundits get to preview this ABC crap-olla-film) 

The

 

Spin Machine

 

is in Full Swing

Just more 911 Lies,

And Joe Anybody Hates It!

Please click these link I have included and take as much action as possible to stop this corporate 911 Republican corruptively run bullshit-of-a-lie in their so called new release of a movie, titled

"A path to 911"

*** Another link to the same ABC bullshit is below***

Since publishing our original action alert regarding ABC's inaccurate and biased "docu-drama" to be broadcast on Sept. 11th, we've learned even more disturbing details about the show - which is scheduled to occupy six hours of prime time television, less that two months before an important national election. Now read these facts in the link below from the "working for change " website

http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?itemid=21330&afccode=n71txt

TAKE ACTION - CLICK THESE LINKS TO SEND A MESSAGE TO ABC, DISNEY AND THEIR SPONSERS TELL THEM THAT IT IS SHAMEFUL TO LIE ABOUT 911

I DID!

Here is some Oregon "Local" ABC contacts:

Oregon

 

 

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And then my fellow z3 reader go the next half of this Truth Search on the 911 Subject

Check my 911 Truth Page out at this link:

 http://www.joe-anybody.com/id16.html


 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 12:05 AM PDT
Updated: Friday, 8 September 2006 1:43 PM PDT
Tuesday, 5 September 2006
Two Human Rights Groups Team Up To Save Lives
Mood:  incredulous
Now Playing: Rainbow Love
Topic: HUMANITY

 

 Although this article is about 30 days old, I thought it was worth noting. See what these guys are doing to help out -

"our brothers and sisters that are in need".

GREENPEACE +

DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS

= LOVE


Here is the article dated 8-10-06:

(quote) International - Monday 7 August At 10:00 (CET) this morning Greenpeace's flag ship, the Rainbow Warrior returned to Cyprus, after its second trip to Beirut delivering a total of 60 tons of urgently needed humanitarian supplies on behalf of Doctors Without Borders. A further hundred tons are still scheduled to be transported.

Doctors Without Borders was planning to ship some 180 tons from Cyprus to Lebanon, but was experiencing serious difficulties in finding reliable transportation since very few boats are willing to sail to Lebanon given the conflict. It was for this reason that Greenpeace offered the use of the Rainbow Warrior, which was already in the Mediterranean. However, delivery to Beirut is only the first step in an arduous journey to those in need. To find out more about the work of Doctors Without Borders in Lebanon and Greenpeace please visit: doctors without borders and RANBIOW WARRIOR.

"Doctors Without Borders is pleased to have drugs, medical supplies, baby milk and relief goods transported to Beirut by the Rainbow Warrior, however, this is only the first step", said Bart Rijs, of Doctors Without Borders in Beirut. "Our teams will have to get these supplies from the harbor to the people who need them most: to the displaced, but also to those who remain in the south.  Doctors Without Borders’ teams will try to bring supplies to the hospitals and to the people in the areas were the bombardment and the fighting are the worst."

Clearly not designed for cargo transport, the Rainbow Warrior has capacity for transporting 40 tons, equivalent to 105 pallets. The trip from Cyprus to Beirut takes around 16 hours. In total each trip takes some 35 hours, including up to 3 hours to off load in Beirut. To minimize security risk the Israeli and the Lebanese authorities are informed of each crossing.

It is not yet clear how many more rotations the Rainbow Warrior will make for Doctors Without Borders.

Doctors Without Borders has over 40 international staff running fixed and mobile clinics, supplying hospitals and clinics with drugs, and delivering relief goods in areas that are severely affected by the conflict. Reaching the most affected populations with the aid continues to be a major challenge. (end quote)

Posted by Joe Anybody at 11:30 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:53 PM PDT
A Mother Jones Time Line for The Iraq War
Mood:  energetic
Now Playing: Lie By Lie
Topic: WAR

http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html

You Got To See This Mother Jones Time Line

(quote from MJ) From 1993 to 2003 The first drafts of history are fragmentary. Important revelations arrive late, and out of order. In this timeline, we’ve assembled the history of the Iraq War to create a resource we hope will help resolve open questions of the Bush era. What did our leaders know and when did they know it? And, perhaps just as important, what red flags did we miss, and how could we have missed them? This is the first installment in our Iraq War timeline project. (end quote)

 


Posted by Joe Anybody at 9:20 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 9:27 PM PDT

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