Arnold Doesn't Have a Heart in that Hollywood Body
Mood:  blue
Now Playing: The Machine Needs Bodies
Topic: HUMANITY
I don't really condone gang hoopla.
But this is a deeper subject!

A simple answer would be to say
"I don’t support the Death Penalty"
So, Z3 Readers, when I read the facts,
I don’t feel like we should be taking this mans Life!
But at 12:00 midnight Tookies life will cease!

~ The Beast Must Be Fed ~
Is the world better off now?
That Stan Tookie is Dead?
This Joe really doesn't think so!
Just from what I, read here--> HERE


Last minute info here from INDY MEDIA
--> here <--

Get Ready Folks, Big Money Republicans are "stumbling through"
Mood:  happy
Now Playing: Let Me Count Em For You
Topic: BIG MONEY PLAYERS

((1)) ---Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham is resigning from Congress after pleading guilty to taking more than $2 million in bribes in a criminal conspiracy involving at least three defense contractors.
After entering his plea in San Diego, California, the eight-term California Republican said he was "deeply sorry."

((2))---Jack Abramoff is "building to an explosion, one that could create immense collateral damage within Congress and in coming elections."

((3))---REPUBLICAN TOM DELAY, FORMER HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER, HAS BEEN INDICTED BY A GRAND JURY IN TEXAS. TOM DELAY FACES FELONY CHARGES FOR CONSPIRACY. *court held-over till Xmas holidays are over!

((4))---Concord, N.H. - President Bush's former New
England campaign chairman James Tobin, 44was indicted Wednesday on
charges he took part in the jamming of the Democrats' get-out-the-vote phone lines on Election Day 2002.
James, stepped down Oct. 15 - two weeks
before Election Day - after the Democrats accused him of involvement.

((5))---Karl Rove, "The Special Counsel has advised Mr. Rove that he has made no decision about whether or not to bring charges and that Mr. Rove's status has not changed," said Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, in a statement released this morning. "Mr. Rove will continue to cooperate fully with the Special Counsel's efforts to complete the investigation. We are confident that when the Special Counsel finishes his work, he will conclude that Mr. Rove has done nothing wrong."

((6))---Scotter Libby, Now it will be quite interesting to see what happens with the Libby case. Will he try to take it to court? Will he seek a plea bargain? Many Republicans are obviously concerned that a trial of Scooter Libby, on this kind of information - about when he learned it and how he learned it and why he learned it - could, in effect, put the Iraq war on trial -- as Mr. Libby could put the vice president on trial in a symbolic way, as much as Mr. Libby. And put the entire Bush administration on trial in a symbolic way.

((7))--- Ohio Gov. Bob Taft (R), a member of one of the most distinguished families in American politics, was indicted on Aug 18 05 on four criminal misdemeanor counts for failing to report a series of golf outings, dinners and other gifts in a scandal that has rocked the powerful state Republican Party. The violations carry maximum penalties of a $1,000 fine and six months in prison, although it is doubtful the governor will face prison time for the ethical lapses.

wow! stay tuned Z3 readers

Much More To Come I Am Sure!

Think About This Issue
Mood:  special
Now Playing: Joe Anybody Supports
Topic: HUMANITY


HUMAN RIGHTS DAY IS NOW
United Nations Videos

I went to Ch 2

Have A Nice Day!

Folks if ya dont care --- then who, am I gonna blame?
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: HUMAN RIGHTS DAY DEC 10 2005
Topic: HUMANITY

ARMED CONFLICT

IHL stands for "International Humantarian Law"

Folks do you think the neo-con war profiteers care ?
Well....
They dont care about international law!

Joe Anybody would lay down his life for Human Rights.
This is the foundation of how civilized we are
Say you love God?
Say you care about rights of all people?
Say you dont support torture?
Well Human Rights Day is about all about just that

Dont say you care .......actually "Do Care"
Dont just read this and say I agree.
Do something more ...you have to

Because our leaders dont:
"GIVE A FLYING RODENTS RECTUM ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS"

Law of war? What laws of war? Its Bush Law Now!

Show us your ID
Mood:  don't ask
Now Playing: Power To the Joe Average Lady in Washington
Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS


"Show Me Your ID"

click HERE for an inspiring

"Story Of a FREEDOM FIGHTER"

They tortured a guy to use the Info for War then find out they are wrong & say nothing to us?!
Now Playing: Curveball = Bad Info + Torture = Bad Info = STUPIDITY!
Topic: WAR
I cant resist a headline that reports we (USA) are Torturing and the information FROM the torturing is being used AS intelligence AND then!!!.. we find that it was lies and false information probably due to saying anything to "MAKE THEM STOP"
heck who wouldn't lie to make it stop when you think about it.

???? (gosh we are a bunch of stupid americans)????
Has this country lost its morals?
Has this country lost is ethics
I Know we didn't loose "Our Liberty"
..........(( oh! no! ---it was stolen! ))


OK, Z3 readers, the theory that the torturing is providing bad information because the person "getting the stick" shall we say is more apt to lie to get the pain to stop and the torturers to quit.
*WHAT STRIKES ME AS WRONG IS THE CONNOTATION THAT WE CAN HURT PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION IN THE FIRST PLACE* AND THAT WE EVEN CONSIDER IT AN OPTION, THE MERE FACT THAT THE RESULTS OF THIS THOUGHT PROCESS IS CONTINGENT THAT THE DERIVED INFORMATION IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE FALSE SO FOR "THAT REASON" TORTURING ISN'T WORTH IT OR GOOD TO DO "ANYWAY" IS DEMENTED, PERVERTED, AND SICK. ....."oh since they are gonna lie I guess it isn't worth it"

#1 you will go to hell if you believe in God if you support this type of treatment I will guarantee it
#2 you will someday be blessed with the karma that you richly deserve, and if you promoted, encouraged, or tolerated, it so may you relish in your "just-return"
#3 You will find out that what goes around will come around, what is fun and games to do to captive prisoners when bored or serious water boarding type of treatment, it will be real interesting to see the War Crime Tribunal or who know who it may be ...drag you away to a dungeon in some black hole to make you pay your just dues.

I like the sound of that
"TO PAY YOUR JUST DUES!"

So todays headlines in the Friday NY Times front page has this to say. Interesting to note, this goes to show you how one more time -AGAIN the American people are lied to and cheated. This info has been out since March 2004 yet hardly mentioned and this Administration does nothing after it is all said and done(rendition, torture, lies, war, death, ooppppppss we made a mistake since you mention it. no acknowledgment of this nor an apology either)

I love these bums!

(quote) WASHINGTON, Dec. 8 - The Bush administration based a crucial prewar assertion about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda on detailed statements made by a prisoner while in Egyptian custody who later said he had fabricated them to escape harsh treatment, according to current and former government officials.

The officials said the captive, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, provided his most specific and elaborate accounts about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda only after he was secretly handed over to Egypt by the United States in January 2002, in a process known as rendition.

The new disclosure provides the first public evidence that bad intelligence on Iraq may have resulted partly from the administration's heavy reliance on third countries to carry out interrogations of Qaeda members and others detained as part of American counterterrorism efforts. The Bush administration used Mr. Libi's accounts as the basis for its prewar claims, now discredited, that ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda included training in explosives and chemical weapons.

The fact that Mr. Libi recanted after the American invasion of Iraq and that intelligence based on his remarks was withdrawn by the C.I.A. in March 2004 has been public for more than a year. But American officials had not previously acknowledged either that Mr. Libi made the false statements in foreign custody or that Mr. Libi contended that his statements had been coerced.

A government official said that some intelligence provided by Mr. Libi about Al Qaeda had been accurate, and that Mr. Libi's claims that he had been treated harshly in Egyptian custody had not been corroborated.(end quote) read the article HERE



And this stinking article is going to infer that welllllll we don't know if we can collaborate if he was tortured or not!.........oh crap
I'm gonna get DRUNK.........
cant collaborate it ........hahahahah..
How about you physco government officials! collaborate this ...--> --> HERE <--

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Updated: Sunday, 11 December 2005 3:36 PM PST

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~ neo-cons @ work ~
Mood:  blue

Daddy!
whats a Neo-con?


Well son.., (Click for shot movie clip on neo-cons HERE
after working in the garden all day.
I sat down at the computer and read this short
little forum on the very question.
Ya See son all these names in this forum are neo-cons, remember that when you read, you will get the picture.

Their big moment arrived with the collapse of the Twin Towers. The American public and politicians were in a state of shock, completely disoriented, unable to understand a world that had changed overnight. The neo-cons were the only group with a ready explanation and a solution. Only nine days after the outrage, William Kristol (the son of the group's founder, Irving Kristol) published an Open Letter to President Bush, asserting that it was not enough to annihilate the network of Osama bin Laden, but that it was also imperative to "remove Saddam Hussein from power" and to "retaliate" against Syria and Iran for supporting Hizbullah.

Following is a short list of the main characters.

The Open Letter was published in the Weekly Standard, founded by Kristol with the money of ultra-right press mogul Rupert Murdoch, who donated $ 10 million to the cause. It was signed by 41 leading neo-cons, including Norman Podhoretz, a Jewish former leftist who has become an extreme right-wing icon, editor of the prestigious Encounter magazine, and his wife, Midge Decter, also a writer, Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Studies, Robert Kagan, also of the Weekly Standard, Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post, and, of course, Richard Perle.

Perle is a central character in this play. Until recently he was the chairman of the Defense Policy Board of the Defense Department, which also includes Eliot Cohen and Devon Cross. Perle is a director of the Jerusalem Post, now owned by extreme right-wing Zionists. In the past he was an aide to Senator Henry Jackson, who led the fight against the Soviet Union on behalf of the Jews who wanted to leave. He is a leading member of the influential right-wing American Enterprise Institute. Lately he was obliged to resign from his Defense Department position, when it became known that a private corporation had promised to pay him almost a million dollars for he benefit of his influence in the administration.

That Open Letter was, in effect, the beginning of the Iraq war. It was eagerly received by the Bush administration, with members of the group already firmly established in some of its leading positions. Paul Wolfowitz, the father of the war, is No. 2 in the Defense Department, where another friend of Perle'sDouglas Feith,, heads the Pentagon Planning Board. John Bolton is State Department Undersecretary. Eliot Abrams, responsible for the Middle East in the National Security Council, was connected with the Iran-Contra-Israel scandal. The main hero of the scandal, Oliver North, sits in the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, together with Michael Ledeen, another hero of the scandal. He advocates total war not only against Iraq, but also against Israel's other enemies, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. Dov Zakheim is comptroller for the Defense Department.

Most of these people , together with Vice-President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, are associated with the "Project for the New American Century", which published a White Paper in 2002, with the aim 'to preserve and enhance this 'American peace'"--meaning American control of the world.

Meyrav Wurmser (Meyrav is a chic new Israeli first name) is Director of the Center for Middle East Policy at the Hudson Institute. She also writes for the Jerusalem Post and is co-founder of the Middle East Media Research Institute that is, according to the London Guardian, connected with Israeli Army Intelligence. MEMRI feeds the media and politicians with highly selective quotations from extreme Arab publications. Meyrav's husband, Davis Wurmser, is at Perle's American Enterprise Institute, heading Middle East Studies. Mention should also be made of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy of our old acquaintance, Dennis Ross, who for years was in charge of the "peace process" in the Middle East.

In all the important papers there are people close to the group, such as William Safire, a man hypnotized by Sharon, in the New York Times and Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post. Another Perle friend, Robert Bartley, is the editor of the Wall Street Journal.

If the speeches of Bush and Cheney often sound as if they came from the lips of Sharon, one of the reasons may be that their speechwriters, Joseph Shattan, Mathew Scully and John McConnellare neo-cons, as is Cheneys Chief-of-Staff, Lewis Libby. ,

The immense influence of this largely Jewish group stems from its close alliance with the extreme right-wing Christian fundamentalists, who nowadays control Bush's Republican party. The founding fathers were Jerry Falwell of the Moral Majority, who once got a jet plane as a present from Menachem Begin, and Pat Robertson of the Christian Coalition and the Christian Broadcasting Network, which help to finance the Christian Embassy in Jerusalem of J.W. van der Hoeven, an outfit that supports the settlers and their right-wing allies.

...The man who symbolizes this victory is General Jay Garner, who has just been appointed chief of the civilian administration in Iraq.
*********
He is no anonymous general who has been picked accidentally. Garner is the ideological partner of Paul Wolfowitz and the neo-cons.
Two years ago he signed, together with 26 other officers, a petition organized by the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs


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“The truth is out there,” and no amount of dissembling, dishonesty or denial can alter that fact.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm?
Mood:  don't ask
Now Playing: Bad Boyz -
Topic: HUMANITY
IT WASNT TILL I READ THIS THAT I STARTED TO WONDER.......TOOKIE



....or more info at this link --> HERE (Link expired* 1-06)

Mans DEATH was UNCALLED for!
Mood:  sad
Now Playing: HOMLAND SECURITY KILLS INNOCENT MAN
Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS
TSA & HOMELAND SECURITY screw up More


Homeland security screw up with passenger list names ...About 30,000 airline passengers have discovered since last November that their names were mistakenly matched with those appearing on federal watch lists, a transportation security official said Tuesday.
Civil Rights Destroyed
Government intrusions
And Huge Mistakes with Messed-up-lists and privacy violations are abounding with this Department.

click HERE

Then in this Fricked Up War on Terrorism A Mentally Ill Man Shot to Death

wow!??

click HERE

My point is simple
Our Government was behind 911
And is sponsoring terror.
Terror with a Dead Man on the runway
Terror into our lives
And Phony trumped up Terror Wars
This man was shot by terrorists it appears?
The way I see this is that the Air Marshals who killed an innocent man that was unarmed are the only TERRORIST I see in this picture.

Ya he said the word bomb ...BUT he was bi-polar and Mentally ill
For Gods sake now we are shooting innocent men!
The very same day that this happened ...2 young girls called my place of work and uttered the word BOMB! Now we traced the line to the caller and called them (kids playing I guess?)...but should we go KILL THEM?

Like I am saying the day they shot this guy they should come shoot the young girls too!Really its the same thing!
STOPPING TERROR as DEAD BODIES LINE THE STREETS OF IRAQ and the Air Terminals in the US start to collect there bounty of the real TERRORIST

damn?

It is out of hand
There was no reason to have to unload bullets into that man...He needed help not a gravestone!
Stupid air marshals!

God I bet everybody feels safer now at that airport hahaha Ya! Right!

HELL YOU MIGHT GET SHOT Readers, just by being around crazy TRIGGER HAPPY Government agents/gun men with patches on their sleeves looking for terrorists ! ?
That tragedy seems to this Joe Anybody more apt to be putting all passengers and travelers at risk, in fact after this tragedy it seems we are in WAY MORE dangerous situation NOW!

- with cops shooting everywhere - bullets flying - stop that innocent man - shoot him!!Reminds me of the London subway scare, where the cops shot an unarmed innocent man, and you know it was in the name of stopping the trumped-up terrorist alert.

Z3 readers I see who the terrorists really are!
And you should know too!
CLICK -->for real truth report

Speaking of remember the FBI saying the Oregon Lawyer was a terrorist!! WRONG whoooops ...searched his house with no , took DNA samples, took pictures,copied hard drive on his 2 computers....., oooops not our guy? Of course Homeland Security is behind this snd may have to hold there policy up to the courts of this land, as this issue is still unresolved.

Big Profits For Some Bush Family Members WOW !
Mood:  not sure
Now Playing: Ralph Naders hangout ....spits out some facts
Topic: WAR
.....Profits Topic
scroll to bottom of War Room Page
Now, read the last article before bottom of the page

Shocking ammounts of money is made by the
B. Family members Investing in Iraq?
Why not? If your brother is sending you business
This is crazy
I got the info off of Democracy Rising Us
its a very interesting article