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Saturday, 10 December 2005
Friday, 9 December 2005
Folks if ya dont care --- then who, am I gonna blame?
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They tortured a guy to use the Info for War then find out they are wrong & say nothing to us?!
Now Playing: Curveball = Bad Info + Torture = Bad Info = STUPIDITY!
I cant resist a headline that reports we (USA) are Torturing and the information FROM the torturing is being used AS intelligence AND then!!!.. we find that it was lies and false information probably due to saying anything to "MAKE THEM STOP"
heck who wouldn't lie to make it stop when you think about it.
???? (gosh we are a bunch of stupid americans)????
Has this country lost its morals?
Has this country lost is ethics
I Know we didn't loose "Our Liberty"
..........(( oh! no! ---it was stolen! ))
OK, Z3 readers, the theory that the torturing is providing bad information because the person "getting the stick" shall we say is more apt to lie to get the pain to stop and the torturers to quit.
*WHAT STRIKES ME AS WRONG IS THE CONNOTATION THAT WE CAN HURT PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION IN THE FIRST PLACE* AND THAT WE EVEN CONSIDER IT AN OPTION, THE MERE FACT THAT THE RESULTS OF THIS THOUGHT PROCESS IS CONTINGENT THAT THE DERIVED INFORMATION IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE FALSE SO FOR "THAT REASON" TORTURING ISN'T WORTH IT OR GOOD TO DO "ANYWAY" IS DEMENTED, PERVERTED, AND SICK. ....."oh since they are gonna lie I guess it isn't worth it"
#1 you will go to hell if you believe in God if you support this type of treatment I will guarantee it
#2 you will someday be blessed with the karma that you richly deserve, and if you promoted, encouraged, or tolerated, it so may you relish in your "just-return"
#3 You will find out that what goes around will come around, what is fun and games to do to captive prisoners when bored or serious water boarding type of treatment, it will be real interesting to see the War Crime Tribunal or who know who it may be ...drag you away to a dungeon in some black hole to make you pay your just dues.
I like the sound of that
"TO PAY YOUR JUST DUES!"
So todays headlines in the Friday NY Times front page has this to say. Interesting to note, this goes to show you how one more time -AGAIN the American people are lied to and cheated. This info has been out since March 2004 yet hardly mentioned and this Administration does nothing after it is all said and done(rendition, torture, lies, war, death, ooppppppss we made a mistake since you mention it.
I love these bums!
(quote) WASHINGTON, Dec. 8 - The Bush administration based a crucial prewar assertion about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda on detailed statements made by a prisoner while in Egyptian custody who later said he had fabricated them to escape harsh treatment, according to current and former government officials.
The officials said the captive, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, provided his most specific and elaborate accounts about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda only after he was secretly handed over to Egypt by the United States in January 2002, in a process known as rendition.
The new disclosure provides the first public evidence that bad intelligence on Iraq may have resulted partly from the administration's heavy reliance on third countries to carry out interrogations of Qaeda members and others detained as part of American counterterrorism efforts. The Bush administration used Mr. Libi's accounts as the basis for its prewar claims, now discredited, that ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda included training in explosives and chemical weapons.
The fact that Mr. Libi recanted after the American invasion of Iraq and that intelligence based on his remarks was withdrawn by the C.I.A. in March 2004 has been public for more than a year. But American officials had not previously acknowledged either that Mr. Libi made the false statements in foreign custody or that Mr. Libi contended that his statements had been coerced.
A government official said that some intelligence provided by Mr. Libi about Al Qaeda had been accurate, and that Mr. Libi's claims that he had been treated harshly in Egyptian custody had not been corroborated.(end quote) read the article HERE
And this stinking article is going to infer that welllllll we don't know if we can collaborate if he was tortured or not!.........oh crap
I'm gonna get DRUNK.........
cant collaborate it ........hahahahah..
How about you physco government officials! collaborate this ...--> --> HERE <--
Thursday, 8 December 2005
~ neo-cons @ work ~
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm?
Mood: don't ask
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IT WASNT TILL I READ THIS THAT I STARTED TO WONDER.......TOOKIE
....or more info at this link --> HERE (Link expired* 1-06)
Wednesday, 7 December 2005
Mans DEATH was UNCALLED for!
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Topic: CIVIL RIGHTS
TSA & HOMELAND SECURITY screw up More
Homeland security screw up with passenger list names ...About 30,000 airline passengers have discovered since last November that their names were mistakenly matched with those appearing on federal watch lists, a transportation security official said Tuesday.
Civil Rights Destroyed
And Huge Mistakes with Messed-up-lists and privacy violations are abounding with this Department.
Then in this Fricked Up War on Terrorism A Mentally Ill Man Shot to Death
My point is simple
Our Government was behind 911
And is sponsoring terror.
Terror with a Dead Man on the runway
Terror into our lives
And Phony trumped up Terror Wars
This man was shot by terrorists it appears?
The way I see this is that the Air Marshals who killed an innocent man that was unarmed are the only TERRORIST I see in this picture.
Ya he said the word bomb ...BUT he was bi-polar and Mentally ill
For Gods sake now we are shooting innocent men!
The very same day that this happened ...2 young girls called my place of work and uttered the word BOMB! Now we traced the line to the caller and called them (kids playing I guess?)...but should we go KILL THEM?
Like I am saying the day they shot this guy they should come shoot the young girls too!Really its the same thing!
STOPPING TERROR as DEAD BODIES LINE THE STREETS OF IRAQ and the Air Terminals in the US start to collect there bounty of the real TERRORIST
It is out of hand
There was no reason to have to unload bullets into that man...He needed help not a gravestone!
Stupid air marshals!
God I bet everybody feels safer now at that airport hahaha Ya! Right!
HELL YOU MIGHT GET SHOT Readers, just by being around crazy TRIGGER HAPPY Government agents/gun men with patches on their sleeves looking for terrorists ! ?
That tragedy seems to this Joe Anybody more apt to be putting all passengers and travelers at risk, in fact after this tragedy it seems we are in WAY MORE dangerous situation NOW!
- with cops shooting everywhere - bullets flying - stop that innocent man - shoot him!!Reminds me of the London subway scare, where the cops shot an unarmed innocent man, and you know it was in the name of stopping the trumped-up terrorist alert.
Z3 readers I see who the terrorists really are!
And you should know too!
CLICK -->for real truth report
Speaking of remember the FBI saying the Oregon Lawyer was a terrorist!! WRONG whoooops ...searched his house with no , took DNA samples, took pictures,copied hard drive on his 2 computers....., oooops not our guy? Of course Homeland Security is behind this snd may have to hold there policy up to the courts of this land, as this issue is still unresolved.
Big Profits For Some Bush Family Members WOW !
Mood: not sure
Now Playing: Ralph Naders hangout ....spits out some facts
scroll to bottom of War Room Page
Now, read the last article before bottom of the page
Shocking ammounts of money is made by the
B. Family members Investing in Iraq?
Why not? If your brother is sending you business
This is crazy
I got the info off of Democracy Rising Us
its a very interesting article
Tuesday, 6 December 2005
Go Home! We Dont Want Your War or Your Bills!
Now Playing: Bush & Co leave big bills for city after they REFUSE to pay!
check this link under the Subject SOUTH" then its the Kentuckey Article Here is the NY Times 12-6-05 Cheney Article
or see NYT article which I copied in the comment fourm at end of this blog entry below
Every time the Bush Crime Family comes to just about anytown USA, they leave behind thousands in bills to the city/state. From Police, Secret Service fee's, costs for out of town police backup, numerous buses to cart away usually peaceful protesters, road crew needed for blocking city roads and their fee's for this service to Bush Co. From massive hiring extra security and erecting fences and cages. To enforcing with violence, mass crowd control. Extra Horse patrols,police Dogs, Sniper shooters, Military vehicles, rerouting traffic, shutting down transit malls buses, stores and freeways, and many many more requests. Usually all done just BECAUSE!.... there is thousands chanting at the Crime Family to "STOP THE WAR or NOT OUR PRESIDENT!" that pretty much all taht goes down till the Police esclate thingsand he cheated at the vote, but thats another story!
Mostly these days people that disagree "openly" are told to go to the cages to exercise their free speech rights. Yes I said Cages! That is free speech in America while Bush Co is running things into the ground. Your free speech will be in a armed POLICE guarded cage in a predetermined area way away from where the person of ill-repute is speaking thus making a protest pretty un affective! I would say!
By the way, It's a good idea to write your lawyers name on your arm, before you go, because after mass arresting people as they sometimes do at lots of these legal protests, you will want that number handy. (At some protests the arrests are so plentyful that civil rights groups will have a toll free number or local number to call for a free civil rights lawyer to help you get out) But IF arrested and IF you do get to make a phone call the number needs to be remembered by you (or written on forearm, etc), ya see Citizen they won't let you look a number up in jail ! You gotta know it! I heard where they even made people wash their arms/hands, to wipe off the information HAhahaha! This is just crazy!
These Republican War Profiteers come into town for there big fancy 1000-dollar dinners to raise money for their henchmen or the GOP?! And don't forget to "get your picture sitting on Cheney's knee for a few more thousand dollars" fund raiser they call it. After slapping each other on the back and passing around a few ??? thousands dollars to each other, amid all the people outside screaming to "go home" they end up doing just that - and stiffing the city for the bill to boot!!!! So Sue Us in Court is All they Say!
Then as mentioned in the Times article they force the city, to sue them, to get their payments that are due.
What a "Crock of Crime"
This time the courts did the right thing according to that NYTimes link
Many times it is not even Government business, it's to personally raise money for fellow palls in the ratpack. But we the taxpayers get stuck with the bill. HA! These are our leaders you say, sounds like its out of hand and these crooks are taking us to the cleaners??????!
Hey! I don?t want YOU in my town!
Hey I want YOU to stop TORTURING!
Hey YOU I want you to pay your own stinking security bills when ya come around!
Hey YOU I want you to end "your" ILLEGAL WARs OVERSEAS!
Hey YOU I want you to get your damn robo-cops out of my streets and quit pointing their guns at me!
Folks Who is starting the violence? The ones with the tools of pain to use on its people thats who! Cause 1000 in the streets doesnt mean they can bash your head in and leave town with me holding my head and the bill!
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